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Old 03-02-2012, 08:02 AM   #91
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Did the Snowbirds setups get posted anywhere?
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Someone make me a setup sheet and I'll post it.
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Old 03-02-2012, 10:12 AM   #93
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Someone make me a setup sheet and I'll post it.
Would you like it in a PDF form?
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i had a problem with front hinge pins sliding out and quick clips getting lost. the set screw in upper arm doesnt seem to clamp the pin quite enough.

is there a hinge pin with e-clips on the ends that might fit this car. the standard pin is 2x29mm. will need to be longer of course.
Here are a couple other solutions:

#1 I agree with Mike that using the small 2 x 4 shims is a pain but it's a lot easier with a really good pair of twezers, like McMaster-Carr #5184A2

#2 The 3mm set screw doesn't pinch the hinge pin enough to keep it in, just replace it with a 5/40 set screw. The 5/40 (same as USA spec pinions) is just enough bigger that the pin won't move.
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Old 03-07-2012, 08:18 AM   #95
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Someone make me a setup sheet and I'll post it.
FRONT END
Ride Height
Camber Angle
King Pin Lube
Front Spring
Castor Shims Front of Arm
Castor Shims Rear of Arm
Steering block postion - ackerman
Shim on axle
Shim above steering block
Shim above upper arm
Shim under front spring
Arm Spacer
Steering block postion - ackerman:
Reactive Castor Position (upper/middle/lower)
Suspension Mount Insert (wide/narrow)
O-ring:
Notes:

CENTER
Shock Spring
Shock Oil
Center Shock Position
Battery Position
Notes:

REAR END
Damper Tubes:
Side Spring
Side Spring PreLoad
Ride Height (side of bottom plate)
Ride Height (rear of bottom plate)
Shim under rear shock mount
Shim under axle clamps
Axle Shims:
Notes:

TIRES
Front Tire:
Front Diameter:
Front Wheel:
Front Additive:
Front Additive Amount:
Rear Tire:
Rear Diameter:
Rear Wheel:
Rear Additive:
Rear Additive Amount:
Notes:

OTHER
Body Shell
Motor
Rotor
Gear
Battery
ESC Settings
Steering Travel
Sterring Expo
Throttle Expo
Brake EPA
Notes
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FRONT END
Ride Height: 4.5
Camber Angle -.5
King Pin Lube 15k
Front Spring .020 associated 10th scale
Castor Shims Front of Arm .5
Castor Shims Rear of Arm 2.5
Steering block postion - ackerman Back hole
Shim on axle none
Shim above steering block 2.5
Shim above upper arm 4
Shim under front spring
Arm Spacer just graphite piece
Steering block postion - ackerman:
Reactive Castor Position (upper/middle/lower) middle
Suspension Mount Insert (wide/narrow) narrow
Long front end
O-ring: yes
Notes: Running old front arms with only graphite riser plates as shims

CENTER Photon Shock
Shock Spring 13lb touring spring
Shock Oil 60 wt losi
Center Shock Position
Battery Position
Notes: Photon shock with 39mm shaft 1.0 3 hole pistons. Full Rebound. SHock mounted on battery brace with 2mm shim on battery brace and 4 mm on pod shocktower

REAR END
Damper Tubes: 15k
Side Spring copper TOP
Side Spring PreLoad Just touching
Ride Height (side of bottom plate) 4.5
Ride Height (rear of bottom plate) 4.5
Shim under rear shock mount 4mm
Shim under axle clamps Clamps flipped upside down with no shims
Axle Shims: 199 rear width
Notes:

TIRES
Front Tire: Handout
Front Diameter: 51mm
Front Wheel:
Front Additive: Sxt 3.0
Front Additive Amount: To purple line about 1/4
Rear Tire: Handout
Rear Diameter: 52mm
Rear Wheel:
Rear Additive: Sxt 3.0
Rear Additive Amount: Inside half
Notes:

OTHER
Body Shell Sophia
Motor Thunder power
Rotor RED
Gear
Battery Thunder Power
ESC Settings Blinky
Steering Travel 5 foot circles
Sterring Expo
Throttle Expo
Brake EPA almost no brakes
Notes
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Thanks for the post Larry, much appreciated.

Couple questions ..

Why the move to the Photon shock?

Did you run long upper arms?

What gearing/timing combo did you end up running in the main?

Thanks.
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Old 03-09-2012, 11:05 AM   #98
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Good luck getting anything but spur size! TOP USA is putting together WGT shock package with all the parts you need to build the shock Larry described no retail price yet but we have them in stock. O.D. may bring some to the Nat's next week.
Larry I'm still waiting for your shirt order.
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Any pics of this shock on the car around?
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Old 03-09-2012, 11:49 AM   #100
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Thanks for the post Larry, much appreciated.

Couple questions ..

Why the move to the Photon shock?

What did you mean by 'long front end', did you run long upper arms?

What gearing/timing combo did you end up running in the main?

Thanks.
the bigger volume shock and pan car spring just feels better.

by long front end -- there are carbon fibre adjustment plates than can be used to make the wheelbase longer or shorter. at home we were running the cars shorter, but with high grip we *think* longer is better. i never made my car longer at Snowbirds.

gearing/timing -- that won't hit the internet. we aren't giving that away

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Any pics of this shock on the car around?
we will get you one on saturday.
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TOP USA is putting together WGT shock package with all the parts you need to build the shock Larry described no retail price yet but we have them in stock. O.D. may bring some to the Nat's next week.
fantastic!
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upper arm holders are breaking quite easily, this is going to be a big problem for me as i race it on a tight indoor carpet track with pvc piping.
initially the upper tie rods were bending causing the caster to go out of adjustment, so i replaced them with spring steel. now the upper arm mounts break from a faily light side-slap on the pipes. i only do this 1-2 per run but its breaking every time. Can they be done in alloy?
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Larry didn't note the battery position in his setup. Running up front like the pics on Mike's Wiki or across the back like the Rebel 12? Advantages?
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Larry didn't note the battery position in his setup. Running up front like the pics on Mike's Wiki or across the back like the Rebel 12? Advantages?
In the back, side to side. Pushed forward but not hitting the front links.

Battery to back - more steering
battery to front - less steering
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