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Old 02-10-2012, 02:44 PM   #376
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I think for me and many others the worst is the start. I wish we had a different way to start. We are all sitting on the straight, the horn blows and everyone goes flying into the fastest corner of the track. This just sets everyone up for kill or be killed. I honestly hate qualifying at the top of the grid locally in off-road for this very reason. I can sit in the 8th or 9th position and drive around the carnage that is upfront and usually finish well. Has anyone ever tried scattering the cars in the in-field for the start?
We need pace cars and rolling starts
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Old 02-10-2012, 02:46 PM   #377
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I really dont know how anyone can disagree with triple A mains.

I spent 1500 bucks, a week of vacation time off of work and got almost no sleep for a week. Raced 18 hours a day. Qualified top 3 in the 3 classes I tried in, only to have all that time and work wasted/ruined on the first lap by other drivers. It almost makes me not want to go to any more races that are not triple A mains.

This has happened to me almost countless times at the Snowbirds and other Big races without triple A's. It almost makes me consider the TQ of the class the winner because the mains are more luck than skill a lot of the time.

Apoligies after the race for ruining my whole week are not going to cut it any more. I'm going to start treating others as I have been treated on starts. Unfortunate as it is this attitude is going to trickle down and make mains awful imo.

IMO if the race does not have triple A mains they should restart Mains where multiple people get peeled on the first lap.
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Old 02-10-2012, 03:32 PM   #378
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At least triple A's allow you to recover from a breakout, rushing to fix and run a broke car is better than resting on the run you broke out on.
I guess I'm stuck in the stone age with my belief in quality over quantity
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Old 02-10-2012, 03:41 PM   #379
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We need pace cars and rolling starts
Been there, done that, and rolling starts are a lot harder than they look. If every one would realize that you don't win the race in the first turn and give and take a little, the racing would go so much better.
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Old 02-10-2012, 03:55 PM   #380
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Anybody tried the GTB 2 X-Drive in VTA, Need a new ESC but not sure if that would be legal. I know theres rules to follow, but Ive followed rules and not even in the same race as others before Lol.
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Old 02-10-2012, 04:39 PM   #381
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Been there, done that, and rolling starts are a lot harder than they look. If every one would realize that you don't win the race in the first turn and give and take a little, the racing would go so much better.
I was kidding...
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Old 02-10-2012, 07:08 PM   #382
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Definitely think Triple A-Mains, and no B-Screw would help clean up the racing, though from a purely spectator pov, the B-Screws are fun to watch.

Watching The Birds Live feed, sad to say it looked like a very amateur level racing in a lot of those heats, & mains.

Way too much hacking.
Did not see 1 stop & go called on anyone.
Some racers will take advantage of that type of no holds barred racing.

Would like to see more mod entries, as it's clear there are a lot of very talented drivers that could race mod.

I would assume it is the high cost to attend these events, that puts so much pressure on the competitors, ultimately causing poor driving etiquette.
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Old 02-10-2012, 07:16 PM   #383
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Yes I think the triple A main would be great never under stood why they don't do that.

Every year i watch, I root for my boy Larry Fairtrace to do well.And what happens in the first turn... Kabamo!!! some body hack's him every year.

You put a lot of time and money to practice test and tune for this event and all that goes to S....... in the first turn when some one hacks ya.
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If you ditched the B-screw mains, ran A1 saturday instead of the B, and then A2 at the start of sunday, and A3s at the end, you could probably do triple A's in not much more time than the current format, and not have guys rushing around to wrench/fix their car for the next main
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Definitely think Triple A-Mains, and no B-Screw would help clean up the racing, though from a purely spectator pov, the B-Screws are fun to watch.

Watching The Birds Live feed, sad to say it looked like a very amateur level racing in a lot of those heats, & mains.

Way too much hacking.
Did not see 1 stop & go called on anyone.
Some racers will take advantage of that type of no holds barred racing.

Would like to see more mod entries, as it's clear there are a lot of very talented drivers that could race mod.

I would assume it is the high cost to attend these events, that puts so much pressure on the competitors, ultimately causing poor driving etiquette.
Things seem to go faster and faster, it would be nice to slow down things a little with Triple/A/mains

My vote is cast
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If I remember right the B main bump at Snowbirds came around 2005 or so!
A lot of the top driver that did not make the A would not Run the B main and just work on the others classes that they where in. I was in one B main whare 6 of the 10 driver ran and worked a corner with only 4 guys running the B Main. Then they added the B main Bump the next year and now the people would show up to run it. Chris Tosso Bump up from 2 or 3 B maind one year.
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Didnt Paul L bump up from B main in 12th last year?
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If I remember right the B main bump at Snowbirds came around 2005 or so!
A lot of the top driver that did not make the A would not Run the B main and just work on the others classes that they where in. I was in one B main whare 6 of the 10 driver ran and worked a corner with only 4 guys running the B Main. Then they added the B main Bump the next year and now the people would show up to run it. Chris Tosso Bump up from 2 or 3 B maind one year.
If your a 'Top Level' driver and feel your too good to run the 'B' cause you could not out right earn they 'A'.......too bad you don't deserve to run the 'A' or the label 'Top Level' and any sponsors should address such behavior.
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Old 02-11-2012, 07:34 AM   #389
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If your a 'Top Level' driver and feel your too good to run the 'B' cause you could not out right earn they 'A'.......too bad you don't deserve to run the 'A' or the label 'Top Level' and any sponsors should address such behavior.
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If a bump has to be in the program, I prefer the way Scotty does it at iic, fastest Q from any main.
Different schedule altogether though
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I guess I'm stuck in the stone age with my belief in quality over quantity
+1 Peter. You're not the only one who thinks the format is good as is. I do agree that the B main bump should go though.
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