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Old 10-03-2001, 07:02 PM   #121
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Alvin - You say "stock" to the springs and stuff. Are you referring to the stock TA04, or TA04R yellow springs/stabilizer/oil?

What gearing do you recommend for a stock motor at a medium course?

I read over a TA04 Gear Ratio chart and I noticed the gears included with TA04R have a really low gear ratio, of about 5.82, which is a bit lower than what I normally run. Or is this normal?
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Old 10-03-2001, 09:23 PM   #122
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The stock gearing is best suited for the silvercan 540's and dyno tuned tamiya motors.
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i think the ta-04r has a lower gear ratio coz because its a race kit. if yiy use the silvercan 540, it's pretty okay decent acceleration but not good enough top end.
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Old 10-04-2001, 01:47 AM   #124
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Alvin - You say "stock" to the springs and stuff. Are you referring to the stock TA04, or TA04R yellow springs/stabilizer/oil?

What gearing do you recommend for a stock motor at a medium course?

I read over a TA04 Gear Ratio chart and I noticed the gears included with TA04R have a really low gear ratio, of about 5.82, which is a bit lower than what I normally run. Or is this normal?
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Yes, I meant the yellow springs/stabilizer/oil etc. whcih came with the car. But I did buy a set of tuned tamiya springs, my rear is now blue instead of the stock yellow.

hmmm I'm too new in this to say what's a good gearing but so far ppl tell me to gear for the length of the race. E.g. 7 minute race probably need to gear lower to get more run time.

IMHO I gear for what I feel comfortable (since I ain't so hot on going to races. YET.). e.g. I only have a 39T pinion so I can only get either 7.0 or 6.5 FDR. While 6.5 provides me much better top-end, I prefer/need the acceleration since 2/3rds of the track I run is a very technical infield.

Alternatively, I get my friend to time me. The difference between my 7:1 and 6.5:1 FDR only gained me a few ms time difference, and I am not comfortable with the handling of the car @ 6.5 so I run it @ 7.

The 5.82 gear ratio seems to be suitable for the Sports Tuned Motor or Dyna Run, I won't dare to run something so high hehe

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Old 10-04-2001, 01:54 AM   #125
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id say that the 5.82 gearing is best for the new tamiya superstock type t and r motors. anyone tried those motors yet? they are extremely fast, but they aren't roar-legal since they're 23 turns and not the 27 turn standard.
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Haven't seen though motors before, though my LHS says they can bring it in. Any idea where we'd can find the specs for 'em?

erap, I too run a 23T yokomo, if the tamiya motors can be geared so high, do you think a 23T like mine can be geared that high too?

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... Tai Sing have them, both Type T and Type R...
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Haven't seen though motors before, though my LHS says they can bring it in. Any idea where we'd can find the specs for 'em?

erap, I too run a 23T yokomo, if the tamiya motors can be geared so high, do you think a 23T like mine can be geared that high too?

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Old 10-04-2001, 05:19 AM   #128
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any idea the price from them? I'm sure we can get a better deal if get one of the lhs to get from 'em...
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what's a good gearing for a P2K motor or stock motor in general?
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Old 10-04-2001, 07:17 PM   #130
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here in the philippines, you can get the type t for 900 pesos, which is about 18 us dollars! the type r, you can get for 1100 pesos which is around 20 us dollars! it's a real cheap motor but it is defintely a good one. it has a nice chrome finish and has 2 pre-installed cpacitors. i forget the specs though, i'll try to look it up!

as for the yokomo 23 turn, i guess u could also gear it the same. but to be on the safe side, try to get a final drive ratio of 6:1. my friend who runs a ta-04r uses the stock gearing on his type t and it runs pretty fast and in excess of 6 minutes on a tamiya 2400 MaH nicad pack. so if the stock gearing is 5.82, then i suppose it must work well
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6.1 on 23turns!? anong layout nang track nyo? must be alot of fast section. is that on road? how's the traction?

we run 7minutes on carpet and i bet 6.1 will dump you before 5, much worst for 5.82. But then, it's carpet...

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here in the philippines, you can get the type t for 900 pesos, which is about 18 us dollars! the type r, you can get for 1100 pesos which is around 20 us dollars! it's a real cheap motor but it is defintely a good one. it has a nice chrome finish and has 2 pre-installed cpacitors. i forget the specs though, i'll try to look it up!

as for the yokomo 23 turn, i guess u could also gear it the same. but to be on the safe side, try to get a final drive ratio of 6:1. my friend who runs a ta-04r uses the stock gearing on his type t and it runs pretty fast and in excess of 6 minutes on a tamiya 2400 MaH nicad pack. so if the stock gearing is 5.82, then i suppose it must work well
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capitol speedway, technical, medium bite asphalt, bu we don't usualy use that high a gearing for a technical track. in park square 1, u could use that gearing, low-bite asphalt naman dun, aside from the fact that its an extremely fast track where you could actually get away with very light braking, if not none at all!
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any one have a good gearing chart for this car?
realy like the handling and the build up was pretty straight forward, only problem i have is how to set the diffs any one help with this?
i run the car in the modified class at our club but only run a tamiya dynastock motor 27x1 we found that running these with a stock motor in the stock class was unfair due to the performance differance over the other chassis tl01 ta03s etc , still i do ok with the currant setup but cant get my gearing sorted
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set your diff so that when you lock the outdrives, it will be difficult to rotate the pulley. You should still have a slight slip but with resistance ...
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Hmm I am considering getting some hop-ups and options for my 04R, like the center/front one-ways, carbon chassis and front/rear carbon shock towers....

But here's the crunch, if I were to upgrade these parts the total cost of my car'd probably cost more comparing to buying a 414M off the shelf...

414M OTOH is supposedly not race legal right? Any idea why? So the 414M is also not 100% an option since I would love to join races too...

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