New Chassis Setup App - Have you tried it?
#271
Tech Master
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Hi Martin
thank you for the reply thats plenty to try thanks!, i plan on getting a iPhone sooner than later.
a silly question about the roll centres if i may.
the tc6 link mounts are like this x = mounts on the shock tower
xx xx x x xx xx
xx xx
xx xx
currently mine are set like this 0 = where ball joints are
x0 x0 x x 0x 0x
xx xx
xx xx
when you say raise the roll centres where would i go too ? the inter outer top hole ? till now i have been useing the inner most long link and have liked it, but for these tires it doesnt work
or should i shart by bringing the bottom suspention arm mount up abit ?
thanks for your time
Ed
ps, feel free to come over to New Zealand! we would love to have you here!
thank you for the reply thats plenty to try thanks!, i plan on getting a iPhone sooner than later.
a silly question about the roll centres if i may.
the tc6 link mounts are like this x = mounts on the shock tower
xx xx x x xx xx
xx xx
xx xx
currently mine are set like this 0 = where ball joints are
x0 x0 x x 0x 0x
xx xx
xx xx
when you say raise the roll centres where would i go too ? the inter outer top hole ? till now i have been useing the inner most long link and have liked it, but for these tires it doesnt work
or should i shart by bringing the bottom suspention arm mount up abit ?
thanks for your time
Ed
ps, feel free to come over to New Zealand! we would love to have you here!
For low bite, try 3* rear toe-in and run 1B rear arm blocks. I've tried this a couple of times and it keeps the back end very stuck..... I like 0B front arm blocks with this. I also run the rear link at 3A, with silver ballstud and 1mm shim under it. Hope this helps!
#272
Tech Regular
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Don't mean to interject, BUT.....
For low bite, try 3* rear toe-in and run 1B rear arm blocks. I've tried this a couple of times and it keeps the back end very stuck..... I like 0B front arm blocks with this. I also run the rear link at 3A, with silver ballstud and 1mm shim under it. Hope this helps!
For low bite, try 3* rear toe-in and run 1B rear arm blocks. I've tried this a couple of times and it keeps the back end very stuck..... I like 0B front arm blocks with this. I also run the rear link at 3A, with silver ballstud and 1mm shim under it. Hope this helps!
ill give it a shot too.
what camber do you run -1.5ish and do you run the long links up frount or the short ones there too ?
thanks again
ed
Last edited by Edwin Pibal; 01-27-2012 at 08:24 PM. Reason: must learn to spell
#274
Tech Champion
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Hi Martin,
Question time for you... what are your thoughts on how shock position affects damping rate?
Now, I know that moving the postions out on the arms effectively stiffens the shock up in terms of spring rate, so I am assuming it has a similar affect on damping rate as well... in effect making a damper that is mounted further out on an arm have a heavier oil.. is this right, or is damping rate not so affected, being as it is more to do with rate of change (how fast the piston moves) than anything else?
Be interested to hear your thoughts, I'm trying to figure something out for my new car..
Cheers
Ed
Question time for you... what are your thoughts on how shock position affects damping rate?
Now, I know that moving the postions out on the arms effectively stiffens the shock up in terms of spring rate, so I am assuming it has a similar affect on damping rate as well... in effect making a damper that is mounted further out on an arm have a heavier oil.. is this right, or is damping rate not so affected, being as it is more to do with rate of change (how fast the piston moves) than anything else?
Be interested to hear your thoughts, I'm trying to figure something out for my new car..
Cheers
Ed
#275
Hi Martin,
Question time for you... what are your thoughts on how shock position affects damping rate?
Now, I know that moving the postions out on the arms effectively stiffens the shock up in terms of spring rate, so I am assuming it has a similar affect on damping rate as well... in effect making a damper that is mounted further out on an arm have a heavier oil.. is this right, or is damping rate not so affected, being as it is more to do with rate of change (how fast the piston moves) than anything else?
Be interested to hear your thoughts, I'm trying to figure something out for my new car..
Cheers
Ed
Question time for you... what are your thoughts on how shock position affects damping rate?
Now, I know that moving the postions out on the arms effectively stiffens the shock up in terms of spring rate, so I am assuming it has a similar affect on damping rate as well... in effect making a damper that is mounted further out on an arm have a heavier oil.. is this right, or is damping rate not so affected, being as it is more to do with rate of change (how fast the piston moves) than anything else?
Be interested to hear your thoughts, I'm trying to figure something out for my new car..
Cheers
Ed
Interesting question. I am fairly certain that the angle of the shocks in no way affects the dampening rate like it does affect the effective spring rate.
I hope that helps.
#276
Tech Champion
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Thats what I was thinking as well, but then talked myself into it as the piston is connected to the shaft, which is attached to the arm... so moving the position could change the rate the piston moves through the oil... i.e. further out, moves slower, so can run softer oil... maybe...
Cheers
Ed
#277
Tech Addict
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Hi Martin,
Thats what I was thinking as well, but then talked myself into it as the piston is connected to the shaft, which is attached to the arm... so moving the position could change the rate the piston moves through the oil... i.e. further out, moves slower, so can run softer oil... maybe...
Cheers
Ed
Thats what I was thinking as well, but then talked myself into it as the piston is connected to the shaft, which is attached to the arm... so moving the position could change the rate the piston moves through the oil... i.e. further out, moves slower, so can run softer oil... maybe...
Cheers
Ed
#279
good stuff....well except for the expiring motor
I know what you mean about the nut behind the wheel...I felt that way after a couple of runs at the snowbirds last week. Also I took a gamble on my a main setup that made the car worse....I will have to fire my mechanic
#280
Tech Regular
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good stuff....well except for the expiring motor
I know what you mean about the nut behind the wheel...I felt that way after a couple of runs at the snowbirds last week. Also I took a gamble on my a main setup that made the car worse....I will have to fire my mechanic
I know what you mean about the nut behind the wheel...I felt that way after a couple of runs at the snowbirds last week. Also I took a gamble on my a main setup that made the car worse....I will have to fire my mechanic
sounds like he needs a racing holiday
#281
Tech Elite
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Martin, on shocks and angles. Ive got the S411 and im unhappy with the wear on the shock ends with my soft Sorex rims rubbing excessively under a flexed load. I have the shocks outside hole on the arm and position 5 on the tower. Could you suggest a similar position on the tower if i have the inner hole on the arm used. Springs currently are Orange front, yellow rear with 550cst front and 450cst rear oil. I have the black and grey springs but im waiting for the green to come in stock here before i try them as it has been suggested to run green/grey on asphalt.
Regards Benzaah.
Regards Benzaah.
#282
Martin, on shocks and angles. Ive got the S411 and im unhappy with the wear on the shock ends with my soft Sorex rims rubbing excessively under a flexed load. I have the shocks outside hole on the arm and position 5 on the tower. Could you suggest a similar position on the tower if i have the inner hole on the arm used. Springs currently are Orange front, yellow rear with 550cst front and 450cst rear oil. I have the black and grey springs but im waiting for the green to come in stock here before i try them as it has been suggested to run green/grey on asphalt.
Regards Benzaah.
Regards Benzaah.
#283
just in case you are interested in a post I just made on the serpent thread about setup. http://www.rctech.net/forum/electric...l#post10329274
#284
Hi Martin.
Can you think about adding a section on Bump Steer in future revisions?
Is there some way that some of the settings can be explained with how they react to low or high grip etc.
Hmm there's no easy way to put this, err, but perhaps, hmm, the use of a spell checker as well
Skiddins
Can you think about adding a section on Bump Steer in future revisions?
Is there some way that some of the settings can be explained with how they react to low or high grip etc.
Hmm there's no easy way to put this, err, but perhaps, hmm, the use of a spell checker as well
Skiddins
#285
Hi Martin.
Can you think about adding a section on Bump Steer in future revisions?
Is there some way that some of the settings can be explained with how they react to low or high grip etc.
Hmm there's no easy way to put this, err, but perhaps, hmm, the use of a spell checker as well
Skiddins
Can you think about adding a section on Bump Steer in future revisions?
Is there some way that some of the settings can be explained with how they react to low or high grip etc.
Hmm there's no easy way to put this, err, but perhaps, hmm, the use of a spell checker as well
Skiddins
lol...yeah...I know there are too many typos in the app Believe it or not, I used spell check and had other read it...but still there remains too many typos
Bump steer is certainly something I will add in the future.
I think a section talking about how to approach low and high grip tracks is also a good idea for sure.
Thanks for the feedback.
Cheers.