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Old 10-15-2004, 01:39 PM   #1
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Hey guys, I am getting back into racing and just wondering what the benefits and setbacks are of the current batteries that are out there. I primarily race stock, but a good reference for mod would be helpful.

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honestly, any matcher has great batters... to run mod you want more runtime and stock you generally want more voltage and less IR...

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I agree with Clint.

Some top manufacturers are Promatch, which I personally order from, they have great specials. Fukuyama have great packs. Nice Voltage. Also, surge is also pretty good.
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I understand the differences between runtime and max voltage, etc... I get the basics of battery selection with apples to apples. I was just wondering what the diff was between the 3600, 3300, 3000. HV, non HV, etc. A couple of years ago certain types didn't have the punch people were looking for in stock. Like I'm looking for the 3300s are better than 3600hvs for stock or something to that effect.

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Right now the GP3300s are better. They have better voltage for running stock. They are suppose to have some updated 3600s but they are not in the US right now.
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I think I saw some updated Orion Sanyo 3600 at the LHS (In US) 460+ run time, with 1.180 voltage. I thought original 3600s had low voltage around 1.14x? and high IR? these had 3.0ohms, which compared to Orion 3300SP2 packs, the run time was higher, but little down on the voltage and similar IR. With killer run time like that, its discharge curve for voltage should be higher then 3300s? Only problem is, they're priced at $80 a pack! ouch. Might pick one up to see how it compares to my new GP3000 packs.
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Damo, not to shamlessly solicit our products, but to shamelessly solicit our products, check out our site:

www.surgeworldwide.com

The new site will be up by Monday, but the old one still works fine.
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My new TO cells are 1.19's and 435-440s
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Yes-the GP300 has eclipsed all previous batteries on the market-that includes he 3000HV, 2400, Panasonic 3000 Ultra Medals.....

It has done this by offering Much lower internal resistance (Punch), larger capacity and higher voltage.

Even GP3300 have evolved tremendousely from just two seasons ago.

The only downside to the GP cells vs. the Ni'Cd and 3000 NiMH is n weight. They weigh more.

The Sanyo 3600 has greater capacity-but signifcantly higher internal resistance. So much higher that packs will feel sluggish-though dont doubt they will run like that a lot longer.

Now rumor on the street says the Sanyo has been updated and now offers an internal resistance to maybe compete with GP cells. But these better Sanyo 3600 are not available in any qty so hardly anyone has used them-so its all rumour for now.

I hope that helped somewhat.

OH-as a side note-the Panasonic UMH is an oddball cell in that it has a lot of punch-and high internal resistance compared to GP-but not the capacity to finish as strongly as a GP pack will.

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My new TO cells are 1.19's and 435-440s

nice

how do you like them
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Ray, you're absolutely right. GP has been doing a great job with their cell. They offer competitive pricing and keep releasing iterations which have improved on their previous batteries.

I'll let you and all the other 4,412,943 people on RCTech in on a little secret. The new GP cell (which we received on Tuesday) is phenomenal! The IRs are correspondingly lower when compared to the previous cell and there are plenty of higher voltage numbers available now. The % of 1.175+ cells (@6A/30A) now is much higher and the spectrum of low to high is far less broad.
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My experience and 30a discharge results show a good matched set of Gp3300 are the best things out there. Sanyo 3000 and 3600 have to much IR and lower power efficiency
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Since u r primarily racing stock, go for GP 3300 matched cells either from SMC, Promatch, Reedy, Novak, Fukuyama and SRC. U have already an advantage with the guys using loose cells. Running mod, if budget is an issue, u can use GP 3300 loose cells as it needs longer run time.
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