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Old 07-05-2011, 02:48 PM   #16
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Thanks for all the feedback.

I found a little more info on some of the motors and have changed the Xerun to 1900kv. Hobbywing has a few different 17.5 motors. I must have looked up the wrong one.

Still looking for more info. Ill update as I find it.
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Thanks for all the feedback.

I found a little more info on some of the motors and have changed the Xerun to 1900kv. Hobbywing has a few different 17.5 motors. I must have looked up the wrong one.

Still looking for more info. Ill update as I find it.
How do the manufactures come up with these numbers?
How is the watts measured?
How is the kv measured?

Each manufacture does it different therefor these numbers are useless.

This info might hurt more people then help. Based upon this chart I don't understand why anyone would buy a motor that has less power then the next.

Unless these are all measured on the same device the info will never mean anything.

My suggestion when selecting a motor look for the following.

What are the faster people at my track running?
Which motor suites your driving style?
If your bashing, which one will be most durable?
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Old 07-06-2011, 08:13 PM   #18
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How do the manufactures come up with these numbers?
How is the watts measured?
How is the kv measured?
How can you ask the above questions, then make the statement below?
Each manufacture does it different therefor these numbers are useless.

This info might hurt more people then help. Based upon this chart I don't understand why anyone would buy a motor that has less power then the next.
Hurt? Not likely. Lower kv=more torque. Higher kv=more RPM. You have to figure out the need for one over the other.
Unless these are all measured on the same device the info will never mean anything.
I would hope.
My suggestion when selecting a motor look for the following.

What are the faster people at my track running?
What if the faster people have not tried one of the motors on the list? Maybe they are faster because they are a good driver?
Which motor suites your driving style?
If your bashing, which one will be most durable?

I dont agree with your reasoning. I still want to know more than, "its a 17.5".
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I dont agree with your reasoning. I still want to know more than, "its a 17.5".
almost all manufactures give kv ratings for their motors trinity/epic, lrp, tekin, orion, novak, hacker, speedpassion,etc.... the only company that i know of that doesn't give a list is thunder power and think they rate each motor individually with the motor spec sheet in the box. correct me if i am wrong, i don't like to give bad info.
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I dont agree with your reasoning. I still want to know more than, "its a 17.5".
What do you want to know?
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I tried to do the same thing years ago and found manufactures numbers don't mean much. If you really want to pick an all around good motor find out what the fast locals are using.

From what i've seen at big races for 17.5 classes these are the top 4 motors, for proof check out this website www.rcprogear.com

- Epic DUO3 (could be aliased under numerous hobby shop names as there the biggest OEM motor on the market today) easy to adjust timing.

- Novak Ballistic, great motor, easy to adjust timing.

- Speedpassion V3, for no-timing class you will need the 10 or 20deg sensor board option as the stock motor does not provide enough adjustment.

- LRP X12, need to replace insert to adjust timing.

Of these motors I think the DUO3 is the lowest cost and a great motor. Prior to the DUO3, there was the DUO2 which was very inconsistent you could get a good or a really bad one, before that and probably the best BL motor made was the DUO1 unfortunately you can't buy this motor anymore. Luckily EPIC found the formula again with the DUO3.

So don't get stuck on this spec junk it really does not help.
pretty much spot on, heres a little secret, that duo 1, same motor as a SP (the first one that was roar approved) and you CAN still get those. I have two on the shelf.
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What if the faster people have not tried one of the motors on the list? Maybe they are faster because they are a good driver?


enough said
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What if the faster people have not tried one of the motors on the list? Maybe they are faster because they are a good driver?

enough said
So true!

There are @ twelve manufacturers making sensored, spec motors. I can almost guarantee that no racer has tried all of them for comparison.

We haven't tried all of them either....
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What do you want to know?
Do you have the weight and efficiency numbers for the Ballistic and SS 17.5 motors?
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Do you have the weight and efficiency numbers for the Ballistic and SS 17.5 motors?
Here is a list of all of our Brushless motor Specs; for additional info about a given motor, click on the description:

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Thanks for the info NovakTwo. Thats almost all the fields for the Novak motors. Only thing left is the efficiency, machine or hand wound.


Anyone else? Members or manufacturer reps with any info on any of the listed motors?
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All of our brushless motors are hand-wound.

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Thanks for the info NovakTwo. Thats almost all the fields for the Novak motors. Only thing left is the efficiency, machine or hand wound.


Anyone else? Members or manufacturer reps with any info on any of the listed motors?
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