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someone cant really tell you which ones better. your gonna have people who like the gear diff , and the people who like ball diffs. try them both . its a personal preference.
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Originally Posted by Rick Hohwart
(Post 9255677)
At the RROC this year the biggest single improvement I made to my car was installing a gear diff in the front. I used cleaning putty so it was very tight which I don't think you could duplicate with fluid. Hebert, Levanen and I used this setup. Not only was the car easier to drive, but it was faster. This took me from a guy just off the pace to a contender.
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Originally Posted by charlie_b
(Post 9256495)
Reinhardt ran DOUBLE diffs at the Reedy race..but then again...he can run double spool and still lap me.
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Originally Posted by Rick Hohwart
(Post 9255677)
I used cleaning putty so it was very tight which I don't think you could duplicate with fluid
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Originally Posted by zamrioo2
(Post 9257115)
this thing inside the diff...!? they are move...? :eek:
How much power do you loose say with a 21.5 or a 17.5 motor compared to a Ball diff ? |
Originally Posted by lightfoot
(Post 9257277)
Doesn't look like the gears would give at all... stuff looks pretty dense... Looks like it would be almost the same as a diff... but I guess not... As far as what you said Charlie " you just can't STAB the throttle " ... I don't drive that way so maybe I might like the gear diff ???
How much power do you loose say with a 21.5 or a 17.5 motor compared to a Ball diff ? Bigdog...i mean Double GEAR diffs btw.:weird: |
Originally Posted by BigDogRacing
(Post 9257020)
That's cause Reinhardt knows how to tune a ball diff...
Gear diffs are faster, theres a reason why pro's ALL use them now. The car is harder to drive? Learn to drive it like that or you will be going backwards at a rate of nots:nod: My 2c |
Originally Posted by Rick Hohwart
(Post 9255677)
At the RROC this year the biggest single improvement I made to my car was installing a gear diff in the front. I used cleaning putty so it was very tight which I don't think you could duplicate with fluid. Hebert, Levanen and I used this setup. Not only was the car easier to drive, but it was faster. This took me from a guy just off the pace to a contender.
FYI easier to drive makes you faster even if the lap times are not faster. Fewer mistakes will be made and your overall time will improve. |
I like gear diffs, but then I have such limited experience with ball diffs, guys who have been tuning balls for years seem able to get 'that' much more from them, but I think for someone newer to electric maybe gears are a much friendly option.
Just based off some stuff I noticed, the gear diff seems to stay exactly the same during a heat, or even during a whole meet or more (without being touched), the last ball diff I built you could feel it change/alter throughout a heat. :confused: Also I tried a front gear diff, and yeah you loose some drive out of the corners, but I was surprised how much easier it was to drive with, the spool seems to fight the turn in, diff just glides in, I can see spool cars pull out a bit harder than me, but then I'm able to come in a lot quicker. It's all playing with oil weights as well, I had like 100k up front and it lost a lot of drive (compared to spool), but 200k and it's not bad now (300-500k and I recon it would be golden), as for the rear I just kind of love it so much I can't imagine putting the ball back in. |
For me, I don't gain as much on entry with a gear diff in front as I do on exit with a spool. Yes it makes the car smoother but it just doesn't have the rip out of the corner. Also, what about the extra rotating mass up front?? JMO
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good thread,one question. when you say 300-500k what oil is that
i am used to ball diffs or off road running up to about 10,000 weight oil is 300k same as 3,000 weight :confused: |
Originally Posted by ozzy-crawl
(Post 9257833)
good thread,one question. when you say 300-500k what oil is that
i am used to ball diffs or off road running up to about 10,000 weight oil is 300k same as 3,000 weight :confused: 1:8 off road use much lighter oil |
Originally Posted by ozzy-crawl
(Post 9257833)
good thread,one question. when you say 300-500k what oil is that
i am used to ball diffs or off road running up to about 10,000 weight oil is 300k same as 3,000 weight :confused: Keep in mind for me this is a 4 gear TOP micro gear diff up front right now, and they need heavier oil to feel the same as a 6 gear full sized diff, same micro in the rear uses 10k when the bigger ones use like around 1k. Which also brings up what people do run in the rears, for the SpecR's etc, people run anything from 250cst shock oil (seems extreme to me), up to say 1500cst, my Yokomo came with a bottle of 700cst, I think the new Serpent comes with 1200cst, no idea what the factory fill spec is on the SpecR, though I plan on buying a SpecR soon... |
I am in the process of fitting front and rear gear diffs in my TA05v2 and am just not sure if I should be now running a center oneway or not bother. Anyone have experience with this?
the advice would be much appreciated :) |
Originally Posted by brapbrap
(Post 9258110)
I am in the process of fitting front and rear gear diffs in my TA05v2 and am just not sure if I should be now running a center oneway or not bother. Anyone have experience with this?
the advice would be much appreciated :) |
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