417 vs T3

Old 06-08-2011, 10:38 PM
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tamiya trf417 vs xray T3 2011
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Old 06-08-2011, 11:59 PM
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both are!

any of the top kits, in the right hands will win races.

my understanding is the t3 best straight out of the box with standard settings, the trf needs more "tinkering" but will be as quick and on some tracks quicker.

its more important what your other club racers are running and spares availability is like. you cant go wrong with either though tbh.
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my understanding is the t3 best straight out of the box with standard settings, the trf needs more "tinkering" but will be as quick and on some tracks quicker.
I don't quite agree here. I almost always run box stock settings on my 417. Sometimes I try to experiment with small changes, but I almost always end up back at the kit setup.

But both are very good cars. I chose the Tamiya because it was quicker for me, but I have also experienced tracks where the Xray was quicker. I would say though, that the Xray is more durable, so if you are new, I would choose the Xray any day.

For both of them, get a geardiff for the rear, and if you are going to be racing on asphalt, get some HPI Silver springs.
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If you buying online, the Tamiya is likely going to a lot cheaper on parts.
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but if you buy an Xray, you won't need lots of parts
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Originally Posted by Brokin Racing View Post
but if you buy an Xray, you won't need lots of parts
yeah,i heard xray material is long lasting...
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I don't buy the whole "Xray is the toughest" hard sell, seems like a marketing thing that stuck at some point, I have to see it proven, in fact I have seen just about every other brand show admirable durability, I think days of any car being 'that' much better than any other car is over.
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Having owned and raced both brands I can tell you for a fact.... The Tamiya is usually the quicker car but is made out of paper and everything wears out quite quick, especially the drivetrain. The Xray tends to be either good or bad and all the tuning in the world sometime won't help you out... but on some days it can be like magic. Xray is easily the strongest car on the market and will come out on top in a crash far more often than any other brand. Everything on the xrays lasts a long time (except ECS driveshafts) so the price you pay is worth it.

Sum up: If you want to win at all costs-417. Just want to race with friends-T3.
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Having owned and raced both brands I can tell you for a fact.... The Tamiya is usually the quicker car but is made out of paper and everything wears out quite quick, especially the drivetrain. The Xray tends to be either good or bad and all the tuning in the world sometime won't help you out... but on some days it can be like magic. Xray is easily the strongest car on the market and will come out on top in a crash far more often than any other brand. Everything on the xrays lasts a long time (except ECS driveshafts) so the price you pay is worth it.

Sum up: If you want to win at all costs-417. Just want to race with friends-T3.


tc6..?
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Sum up: If you want to win at all costs-417. Just want to race with friends-T3.
That was a bit tough, don't you think? The Xray isn't some clubrace shit, it's maybe a bit slower compared to the 417, but that's quite small differences. The Xray is more durable, but it's far from being a car you race with friends...
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Many good comments on this thread.

I happen to run both these cars currently, and take both to meetings. First thing to say is they drive very differently. Might be worth having a go on a friend's car to get an idea if which one suits you best.

Thought the box set up for the 417 was awful, and much slower than the T3 11 whose stock setting was fantastic..

Recently managed to get the 417 to work for me, now its faster than the Xray, but it was very difficult (for me) to unlock the car..it is sensitive to setting changes and driver input like no other car I have ever had. I think overall it makes more sense for top drivers.

But the T3 11 is just so easy. Buy it, slap it down on the track with stock settings and race! Amazing they have made a car which is so competitive and works for so many different people in so many different situations.

The Tamiya might just edge it in terms of pure speed, but it doesn't stop the Xray being the best car out there.
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Just get what you can stock parts for most easily. If you are asking, the difference isn't going to matter.
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Originally Posted by Bishop View Post
I don't buy the whole "Xray is the toughest" hard sell, seems like a marketing thing that stuck at some point, I have to see it proven, in fact I have seen just about every other brand show admirable durability, I think days of any car being 'that' much better than any other car is over.
I used to own an Xray, and now a 417. The Xray IS more durable.

On topic:
The two cars do drive very differently, but both are easy to drive - but in their own way.
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how about t3 11 vs tc6...?
handling..?
spare material..?
durable..?
setup..?

thank you..
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Originally Posted by ahpeq_ong View Post
how about t3 11 vs tc6...?
handling..?
spare material..?
durable..?
setup..?

thank you..
You pay for what you get!!

TC6 is supposed to be very quick but some serious quality issues, just built myself a t3 '11, not run it yet, but for the first time I have built a car without any quality issues.

You can but a TC6 and 100 worth of spares for the same price though.......
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