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Old 02-15-2006, 08:33 AM   #10501
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getting my losi ready for outdoors, on the rear a-arms when I use the standard mounting hole for the hub carrier the dogbone drive pins are on the edge of falling out of the drive cups
Are you using the Offset hub in the outer hinge pin location? If so that is incorrect.
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Old 02-15-2006, 08:35 AM   #10502
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gotta get my hands on one of those CVD drills. always wondered why manufacturers like MIP dont already have the extra holes pre-drilled .... then again, i should wonder .... that would mean less revenues for them hahaha!
The reason we do not do it is simply because of cost. I tried to get it done with the JRXS but it was going to add a lot to the cost of the cvd.
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I never knew Todd could wheel a 12th scale like that. Dude you were flying. Was that the spring car or the t-bar car?
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Old 02-15-2006, 10:25 AM   #10504
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So what's the new product come out that will bullet proof the car?
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Old 02-15-2006, 11:48 AM   #10505
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So what's the new product come out that will bullet proof the car?
here we go again, speculating, but aint it fun I reckon it narrower diffs and longer wishbones
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Old 02-15-2006, 11:56 AM   #10506
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The reason we do not do it is simply because of cost. I tried to get it done with the JRXS but it was going to add a lot to the cost of the cvd.
Cheers for that Tod
So it has to be worth purchasing one then instead of $52 + $4.99 postage I will sell them for $35.00 + $4.99 postage. The time you drill one drive shaft with an extra 3 holes, you would have paid for the Drill-Shaft-Tool
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Old 02-15-2006, 12:35 PM   #10507
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I never knew Todd could wheel a 12th scale like that. Dude you were flying. Was that the spring car or the t-bar car?
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Old 02-15-2006, 01:53 PM   #10508
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OK.. home from work.

What I did= Moved rear shock tower to the front side of the bukhead, and then mounted the shocks on the front of the arms.

What needed to be modified= Bulkhead radius needed to shaved flat, arms needed to be drilled in front, same as outside hole, then mount your BK brackets that are now laying in your pit box to achive the desireable geometry.

What did it do to the car= well.. how should I put this. It made it FAST, it made it smooth and it made it consistant.

I have been working with this car since the beginning of december with less than perfect results.. lately, I have been trying just off the wall stuff to get it to go fast. I have tried dropped spindles (shaved .050")in the front to cause the car to roll more.. which I actually liked.. but it made the spindle very very fragile. I have been running the rear roll center in full high position and i think this is the way to go. My thoughs are running the front high causes the rear end to do all of the steering.. not the front. Personally, I want my front end to do all the work and have the rear end follow.

This past weekend i was staring at my car during down time just dreaming up different ideas and changes. This one, we have seen on another car or two and i went for it.

WHY? why not? took 20 min to rig up... and its another tuning option. You move your shocks out on the arms and you get a different feel.. same principle except the shock is moving closer to centerline.

Results? Well.. i have VERY limmited experience with this setup, and ONLY on carpet... but the weekend before.. my best qualifying time at CEFX (i believe) was a 31/5:00.. and TQ was a 32/5:03 or 04- layed down by a recent Snowbird A main finalist. This week.. my TQ was a 33/5:08.. and then i ran an 06' in the main. This was the SINGLE thing I changed from last weekend to this one. The track was the same, because the same guys were turning the same fast laps and qualified very close to last week. this was a grooved track.. id say if Novak or vegas was a 10 on traction.. and fresh track is a zero.. this track was a 6 by the mains.

Feel? well.. my car has never felt "there". It always seemed to just plow around the track.. never actually feeling hooked up and fast at the same time.. definately would not turn the same lap 2X's. This week.. the car TURNED.. yet it never broke traction. The car rolled through turns precisely and seemed to actually carry speed. The car did exactly what i wanted.. and was never a handfull. It was dare i say as fast as my _______ (insert last car name here). It made the car react faster both off and on power without making it feel over worked.

So= if you guys are bored...try it. let me know what you think.

The whole setup is this

front
Spring= 30lbs
Piston=57
oil= 70
camberlink=low and stock (not JR)
shock position= BK hole, middle of new tower, (all the way in on old tower)
Pin angle= 1 degree out.
6 degree castor
low roll
1mm up travel

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Spring=20lbs
Piston=56
Oil=40
Camber link= 5-B
Shock position= BK bracket/ 2
TOE= one at pins, one at hubs (2 total)/offset hubs
HIGH ROLL center
2mm up travel

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Old 02-15-2006, 02:01 PM   #10509
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I had come up with the idea over three years ago when I then had a TC3 and was fed up with purchasing new drive shafts, and saw a market for such a tool. Do you see Tod on your travels? if so ask him for a peak I have drilled all my drive shafts ever since, XXX-S and JRX-S an absolute must for the guy's that use a SPOOL
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Hopefully I'll start seeing Todd more often... cough SoCal cough...

I'll check it out next time I do see him though.
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Old 02-15-2006, 02:08 PM   #10510
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Keith - if you say it works, I'll try it tomorrow, gonna be at the track all day testing stuff Only problem I can forsee is I run TC3 hub carriers, might have to figure something out for the camber link, but Im sure it wont be too rough.
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Old 02-15-2006, 02:14 PM   #10511
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why do you run TC3 hubs? That seems really weird to me... back in the day, i always ran the losi hubs on my TC3, because i felt the AE ones blew

Losi hubs offer verticle ball... which to me is MUCH more desireable.

Please let me know how it works on asphalt.... i take it your running at socal? Just change that from what ever your usually happy with. Same shock oils and springs and such...

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is it just the pics or is the camber really screwed up on that???
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Old 02-15-2006, 02:20 PM   #10513
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is it just the pics or is the camber really screwed up on that???
looks about right to me...

camber seems to be a constant for me, 1 degree front, 2 degree rear

done on my trusty Integy setup station before every run.

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Old 02-15-2006, 02:35 PM   #10514
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Must be me or the pics. With the foams on, I see it as the wheels are angles out at the top.

You using a fisheye lens on that camera??
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Old 02-15-2006, 02:38 PM   #10515
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why do you run TC3 hubs? That seems really weird to me... back in the day, i always ran the losi hubs on my TC3, because i felt the AE ones blew

Losi hubs offer verticle ball... which to me is MUCH more desireable.

Please let me know how it works on asphalt.... i take it your running at socal? Just change that from what ever your usually happy with. Same shock oils and springs and such...

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The TC3 hub carriers have a mounting hole that is lower and more inside than the Losi hubs. Basically just another tuning option.. I run Losi hubs on every track but SoCal.
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