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Old 10-16-2005, 10:41 AM   #8341
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I saw a pic somewhere(can't remember or find it again)but it showed an interesting front upper camber link on the new car. Looked like a cut down lower arm?? I'm guessing it moved the pivot point out further?? What exactly was the deal there and what are it's advantages?
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Come on a 3 layered deck? It screams tweak machine to me. The centered mass design doesn't make a difference anyway. The chassis has to be wider, which makes it hard to fit electronics on it. I use to be a Losi sedan fan. It's just not worth it, but that's just my opinion.

Team Losi has been known to create some different things and the JRXS is one of them. We just dare to be different. We could of made a graphite plate version of our XXX-S but what is that. You look at all indy or F1 cars.....the weight is all down the middle. If we do decide to produce the rear engine car there will only be one top deck and not three. As for getting your old XXX-S back.. you could always run the HB, XRAY or Tamiya. They are close to the same layout except they are graphite plated cars.
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I saw a pic somewhere(can't remember or find it again)but it showed an interesting front upper camber link on the new car. Looked like a cut down lower arm?? I'm guessing it moved the pivot point out further?? What exactly was the deal there and what are it's advantages?
Gil Losi Jr found a way to run a longer top camber link. He did this just to test it and made parts out of 0 degree caster blocks and a front arm. We have felt that this helps the front of the car stay flatter and have more steering. Most of us ran this at the Nats. Gil Jr tried this in Vegas and thought it was a huge improvement.
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Old 10-16-2005, 01:48 PM   #8344
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For a car that doesn't work , It did OK at the Nats.

If all cars are built the same then what fun would it be, to lead you can not follow.
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The thing is, "Different" does not appeal to the masses. Tell me I'm wrong, please. How are sales? Anyway, I'm a big fan, just not this one. Too busy, too many things to think about. I already have a Xray05, I just want my revised XXX-S.
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Not going to toot the horns but of all my touring cars when I needed a consistant car on asphalt with foams (what I use to run all the time) the XXX-S was my choice. I had 3 different ones and all worked great when I needed to run well.

Now the new car JRX-S has me liking the center battery postion and the balance of the overall car. I can't wait to get mine this week. I'm interested on how I will do on asphalt with rubber tires and then I will run a very few races on carpet. Time will tell but I'm going to think out of the box.

Never been a Losi fan like some guys that run Losi for 15 years but I will give them credit from trying something a little different. MIght not be winning everything with the car but then again touring car is the most competitive racing out their because so many companies make quality cars unlike offroad when mainly Losi and Associated.
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Gil Losi Jr found a way to run a longer top camber link. He did this just to test it and made parts out of 0 degree caster blocks and a front arm. We have felt that this helps the front of the car stay flatter and have more steering. Most of us ran this at the Nats. Gil Jr tried this in Vegas and thought it was a huge improvement.
Can you give a detail picture or instructions on how to reproduce these? My car ate the inside of the left front at the Nats because I ran the front inner camber in the lower hole and an added shimm on the outer to get more camber gain and a little more steering out of the car. A longer front link would have helped me out a ton more....
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rob philips thx alot, iran paul c's setup at mimis today, it was fricken awesome dude. just a tad too lose, but nothin i coulnt fix. some other guy w/ a losi there was shoked i was only rolling out at 24, and he was at 27, thank you eXpress hp
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Old 10-16-2005, 05:16 PM   #8349
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Gil Losi Jr found a way to run a longer top camber link. He did this just to test it and made parts out of 0 degree caster blocks and a front arm. We have felt that this helps the front of the car stay flatter and have more steering. Most of us ran this at the Nats. Gil Jr tried this in Vegas and thought it was a huge improvement.
Is this something we can duplicate on our "regular layout" Jrxs's??
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I just bought a JRXS today and I was wondering if someone could give me a complete setup that works good for them on carpet.. That would be great
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To reproduce the "rear motor" car from the current JRXS would be pretty difficult, the chassis is completely different. Then you would need the upper decks, bulkheads ( motor mounts ), and misc. other changes. And where would you start on set ups since the only people that are running the car are TL drivers. At least with the current JRXS you have all the good folks here on RCTech to turn to if you have a question.
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That isn't was he was asking......
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I just bought a JRXS today and I was wondering if someone could give me a complete setup that works good for them on carpet.. That would be great
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Front:
50lb spring with 2 white orings above the blatter
70wt oil, 60 piston
camber link lower
shock leaned in
diff with brown grease
roll center low with 1degrees pivot (small shim on front block, large shim under inner blocks to give minimal anitidve)
1 degrees toe out
ae silver ball stud with 2 .03 washers for bumpsteer, rack normal
6 degrees caster
1.5mm uptravel for droop
wheelbase middle
diff low
-1 camber
4.5mm ride height
.050 sway bar, links perpendicular

Rear:
20lb spring with 1 white oring above blatter
50wt oil, 57pistion
shock in 2nd hole in on tower, outer on arm
camber link long and in lower hieght(vertically) on tower
link closer to bearing on the hub
.5 degrees offset rear hubs, 2 degrees pivot (total 2.5)
roll center blocks low with the thicker (.050) shim to space them up
wheelbase middle
diff low
.060 sway bar, links perpendicular
2mm uptravel from droop
-1 camber
4.5mm ride height

Misc:
parma alfa or protoform G6
chasis standoffs used
no bk/pk brackets
i use the bearings on the cvd/lcd pins
Speedmind Hybrid / 35 tires


This is what i have been runing lately, the car is very very smooth and turns crazy fast laps. This is based on Paul L. setup from the losi site, but with a few changes.
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The thing is, "Different" does not appeal to the masses. Tell me I'm wrong, please. How are sales? Anyway, I'm a big fan, just not this one. Too busy, too many things to think about. I already have a Xray05, I just want my revised XXX-S.
Ryan why do you come on here and talk like you are this really fast driver that thinks he knows all?
I don't know but seeing that Losi is one of the most successful rc company of all time I think they know what they are doing.
As for the car untill there is a FK05 faster than the JRXS at our track than we can talk about what car is better.

Its all about the driver. Bottom line. I commend losi for thinking outside the box and not making another cookie cutter car.

Good job Todd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and everyone else at losi!!
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Old 10-16-2005, 07:39 PM   #8355
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Rear engine????????

Is Losi coming out with a nitro sedan???
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