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Old 05-07-2005, 05:30 PM   #4981
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for the front arm breaking, the solution is a rubberneck bumper..

when I was at the roar carpet nationals I broke a couple of arms and then I put a rubberneck bumper and since that day I never broked anything on the car.

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Old 05-07-2005, 06:46 PM   #4982
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what will kick up or anti-dive do for me? and how much should i use?(stock carpet)
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Old 05-07-2005, 08:06 PM   #4983
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For carpet you'd probably like antui dive the best, since it makes the steering a little sharper. Less suspension roll in the corners is usually a good thing, which is what anti dive, or less kick up will do......................Jim
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Old 05-07-2005, 10:16 PM   #4984
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Servo Saver is a definite must. Clipped a board and it locked my steering. But luckily the marshall popped it out and ran down the pesky PRO4 and passed him.

Definite proof that this car is a rocket ship. She only got better as the night went on. To bad it started raining before the main.

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Old 05-07-2005, 10:25 PM   #4985
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old W.E.D. jim?

I've been racing losi cars since 87, and rc since 83. But at age 47 tomorrow (now that is old, right jim?) Spent today testing. rubber tires outdoor @ 4fun in hesperia.

Something for you guy's to try:

1. High diffs
2. Longest rear camber link, middle row tower - regular ball stud with std 0 degree hub
3. 2 degree rear toe
4. Low rear roll position
5. 0 front pivot
6. High front roll plus 2 thick shims
7. 1/2 to 1 front camber and 1 rear camber
8. Space front and rear arms to the back of the car.

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Old 05-07-2005, 10:59 PM   #4986
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Per my setup station, I had 2-1/2 degrees on the left and 1 degree on the right. Just opened up a new package of 0 degree rear hubs and changed them. Both sides are now 2 degrees. Yep, it was the hubs.

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So you are sayin new zero hubs corrected this issue? My car and another persons at our track have 3 L and 1 R. This was checked with a Hudy setup station as well as car on end and a camber gauge. I went another step further, since I was a bit perplexed by this as well, and even measured screw holes as well as pin holes from side to side. I found those to be off as well. Of course this is assuming the chassis is truely symetrical from side to side. Holes measured were the ones for the front pivot block. So I wonder if the chassis's even have the holes drilled right from side to side. I would like to hear from Todd on this one, if you could. We had one other kit sold and I'm waiting to hear back from that person as to whether or not his is like ours.
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old W.E.D. jim?

I've been racing losi cars since 87, and rc since 83. But at age 47 tomorrow (now that is old, right jim?) Spent today testing. rubber tires outdoor @ 4fun in hesperia.

Something for you guy's to try:

1. High diffs
2. Longest rear camber link, middle row tower - regular ball stud with std 0 degree hub
3. 2 degree rear toe
4. Low rear roll position
5. 0 front pivot
6. High front roll plus 2 thick shims
7. 1/2 to 1 front camber and 1 rear camber
8. Space front and rear arms to the back of the car.

Old fart but nor oldest

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Ron--From out of the box to what changes your describing, how did the car handle at first and now how is it?

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the solution is a rubberneck bumper..
Where can you buy them from???
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from the stock set-up, The changes have in order:

1. High diffs = a better cvd/lcd angle to the diffs/spool
2. Long rear camber = A more stable rear end, trying to get the car to steer from the front not the rear. It seemed to eliminate the rear from stepping out.
3. 2 degree rear toe bracket = I think this is stock but I tried so much I just ended up here and the rear bite and steering were the best so far.
4. Low rear roll position = When using the higher position and/or shims the car needed a short camber link to get the balance of steering and rear grip, but the rear was a little unstable.
5. 0 front pivot = Well I tried 2,1,0 and the initial steering was better with more toe-out in the pins, the middle was lacking. With 0 and the low rear roll the steering was back in the middle of the corner and the entrance was not compromised.

I guess I should of changed 5 and 6 because 6 was what I worked on before 5.

6. High front roll = To get the car to turn in and carry the arc I raised the front roll, the higher I raised it the better it got (but more than 2 thick shims and some arm and carrier plastic needs to be removed) So I stopped at 2 thick shims.

7. camber just for reference

8. Spacing the arms forward well = I tried all three ways and I liked forward better

Remember your results may vary But we got to try stuff outside the box (only way to learn)

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Ron, a.k.a "Rocket Ron", 47...sheesh.....I thought you were about the same age as I am? Now i'm even more pissed about all the times you've beaten me in the past, LOL.

I'm going to try some of the things you listed and see how it goes.......

I was watching some videos from the late 80's and early 90's with Jason, man, we're all getting old. I saw Kinwald with no sideburns, Francis' with all his hair, Jr with no greys and Pavidas was skinny....even Halsey was! I didn't spot any psychadelic shorts though?, but you were there....LOL.......Jim
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So you are sayin new zero hubs corrected this issue?
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Was at Ripon last night. Got to restart with the process of setting up my JRX-S...my newest 12th scale...and a new Helios with Spektrum. Too many changes...

Forturnately for me, James Nguyen was there too. I told James what the JRX-S was doing and he made major changes in a matter of minutes.

So, after the initial setback with the rear hub problem, I'm feeling a whole lot better about the car.

Many thanks to James for his efforts.

Otherwise, 12th scale went great for an initial run. Was fourth after a race long battle with zen master car preparer, odpurple.

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LOL...sounds like yoiu had a good night of racin
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