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Old 05-06-2011, 10:29 AM   #1
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I'd like to start this thread about RIDE & SHIMIZU F1 RUBBER TIRES to exchange information, setups and reviews.









Here is the popular combination.

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F103,F109: Front type-A(soft) or B(hard) and Rear Type-A(soft)
F104, HPI F10: Front medium and Rear super soft

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F013: Front medium or soft and Rear soft (choice of F1R1 and F3R3)
F104: Front medium or soft and Rear soft (choice of F1R1 and F3R3)

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Man would I ever like to get a set of the threaded ones for my f104. I'm tired of running the tamiya races on Cannada. Now I stick to a local hobby shop who runs at a Home Depot parking lot. I have more fun. I don't think the Rep. is to kin on running the TCS races either.
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I bought the Shimizu tires from TQ and the following is what I've observed compared to Tamiya tires:

1. Started with Tamiya Medium (Kit) front and Tamiya Soft rear: The car has too much front traction even at super high-grip West Coast Raceway. The car would want to swap-ends at the sweeper if throttle is lifted.

2. Ran the Tamiya setup again at Corona outdoor parking lot asphalt. Same as first where the car is very unstable down the straight and again, at sweeper the car would swap ends if the throttle is lifted. Then changed to Shimizu F3 (Medium) front and R1 (Soft) rear. The car became super stable, but way too planted and there is really not a lot of steering. Understeer a lot, but very easy to drive if the line is good and this setup also allows heavy braking (generally not recommended for 2wd F1).

3. Bought Shimuzu F3-S (soft) and R3-S (soft) trying to see if I can improve the super-understeering issue earlier at Tamiya track. But the handling went back to what the Tamiya tires would run, not stable at the sweeper. The rear end would swap even without lifting throttle at the sweeper.

So for now, I would stick with F3 and R3 and try to increase steering by chassis tuning. Maybe I will try F3 and R3 (medium) next time to see if the car has the right balance.

After the testing, I hope that Shimizu makes one front tire that is between F3 and F3-S, that would give the perfect balance for the car.
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Rear Shimizu for f103 when brand new seems to only have 25% contact patch with the road. Rear very loose.

When I sanded the rears to have 90% contact patch, the car became a joy to drive. Lots of rear grip.
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RIDE
F103,F109: Front type-A(soft) or B(hard) and Rear Type-A(soft)
F104, HPI F10: Front medium and Rear super soft

Shimizu
F103: Front medium or soft and Rear soft (choice of F1R1 and F3R3)
F104: Front medium or soft and Rear soft (choice of F1R1 and F3R3)
Nice to finally see F1 rubber tire options available in the US that aren't sold by Tamiya.

Now, if someone could figure out a standard wheel for the lot of 'em, we'd really have something.
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Nice to finally see F1 rubber tire options available in the US that aren't sold by Tamiya.

Now, if someone could figure out a standard wheel for the lot of 'em, we'd really have something.
The Pits fit on standard Tamiya foam rims, found almost everywhere (you should check Strictly or Al's)
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Nice to finally see F1 rubber tire options available in the US that aren't sold by Tamiya.

Now, if someone could figure out a standard wheel for the lot of 'em, we'd really have something.
Here is the list of wheels for Shimizu and Ride F1 Rubber.

Pit-Shimizu
Tamiya F103/F109
F103,F109 FRONT WHEEL (Silver Luster Less) 2pc-Set
F103,F109 REAR WHEEL (Silver Luster Less) 2pc-Set

Tamiya F104
51378 Tamiya F104 Spare Wheels Set

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Tamiya F103, 3Racing F109
F103,F109 FRONT WHEEL (Silver Luster Less) 2pc-Set
F103,F109 REAR WHEEL (Silver Luster Less) 2pc-Set

Tamiya F104
F104 FRONT WHEEL BLACK METALIC 2pc-Set
F104 REAR WHEEL BLACK METALIC 2pc-Set

HPI F10
HPI F10 Front Wheel Black-Luster For Rubber Tire 63mm
HPI F10 Rear Wheel Black-Luster For Rubber Tire 63mm
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The Pits fit on standard Tamiya foam rims, found almost everywhere (you should check Strictly or Al's)
Yeah, I know they are. Gluing rubber tires to a flat foam wheel isn't exactly my idea of a good time, though. Still can't figure out why they didn't make them for the F104 rubber wheels. And considering everyone in this area is using F103s with the F104s, foam tires are still king and rubbers are at a sizable disadvantage.

Now, if we could get the F103 guys to go to rubbers...
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Yeah, I know they are. Gluing rubber tires to a flat foam wheel isn't exactly my idea of a good time, though. Still can't figure out why they didn't make them for the F104 rubber wheels. And considering everyone in this area is using F103s with the F104s, foam tires are still king and rubbers are at a sizable disadvantage.

Now, if we could get the F103 guys to go to rubbers...
I'll finish dead last with rubber tires before I true or chunk another set of foams
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I'll finish dead last with rubber tires before I true or chunk another set of foams
I tend to be right with you there. I'm not a big fan of foam tires in ay class. As long as there is traction, I'd rather use rubber tires.
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Rear Shimizu for f103 when brand new seems to only have 25% contact patch with the road. Rear very loose.

When I sanded the rears to have 90% contact patch, the car became a joy to drive. Lots of rear grip.
What inserts do you use? Shimizu makes a thin insert, or use the ride insert to give some air gap. I have not used either yet, but that will be my next experiment on my F103 with Shimizu soft rears.

You can check out a review of the tires done last year by a couple of UF1 drivers here. Be aware that some of the part numbers don't line up with what is available now.
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Hi, I use the inserts that came with the tires. No air gap.
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Gluing the Shimizu rubber tyres to the Tamiya foam rims can be done but why bother. Rubber tyres were designed to be glued to rubber rims.

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Ride rims are are poor quality and not value for money.


Best readily available rims for F103 rubber are the TRG rims.
http://www.rcmart.com/catalog/rc-f10...l-p-32059.html
http://www.rcmart.com/catalog/rc-f10...l-p-32060.html

CROSS also produce rims for F103 rubber tyres that are of the same quality as TRG but they are not easy to find.
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My standard set up for the last year on my 104 has been Shimizu 0577 fronts and 0575 rears... using soft Tamiya front springs... This gives me a very easy to drive but pushy car...

I'm now trying out a medium compound front tire ( Shimizu 0573 ) to gain more steering ... I know I can be quicker if I can make these medium fronts work... I tried 3 different front springs... Associated .020 , .022 and .024... The .022 seemed to work the best for me...

I'm already getting faster lap times, but I'm having to stay on top of the car... I just want to mellow out the nervousness of the front end... I will try to lubricate the front pins a little more...

If anybody else is using this tire combo ( 0573 fronts, 0575 rears ) and want to share some info ...... please .....
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I've tried Shimizu F3 Soft and R3 Soft at Tamiya Track, UF1 Series, it was working good. It has lots of front traction.

Also, I've tried Ride front medium and rear medium at Westcoast raceway. It was working great.

I think more traction in the rear makes the car more stable.
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