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Old 07-15-2011, 07:24 AM   #46
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anyone find any other options to mounting the Shimizu tires? I really don't want to f'up a set trying to mount them to foam rims

or is it not as difficult as it sounds?

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how about mounting them to Ride wheels?
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anyone find any other options to mounting the Shimizu tires? I really don't want to f'up a set trying to mount them to foam rims

or is it not as difficult as it sounds?

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how about mounting them to Ride wheels?
Shimizu F104 rubber tires only fit on Tamiya Foam rims, doesn't fit on Ride or Tamiya rubber rims.

It's not that hard, here is the picture of Shimizu F104 rubber with Tamiya Foam rims.


I'll upload more pictures.
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Oops. Sorry about that. I'm learning. Have some shimuzus coming for my F109. After reading this thread and asking around, I'm excited about trying them out.
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Which tires do I order to get them on my F201? Do I get the HPI F10 version of tires/wheels?
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Shimizu F104 rubber tires only fit on Tamiya Foam rims, doesn't fit on Ride or Tamiya rubber rims.

It's not that hard, here is the picture of Shimizu F104 rubber with Tamiya Foam rims.


I'll upload more pictures.
I have used these Shimiyzu tires. Bothcompounds and found them to be highly grippy and stable!! Although, not wanting to contradict you here but I found the tires fit better on the stock Tamiya wheels for rubber tires then the foam wheels.
don't get me wrong. They do fit fine on the wheels for foam tires and they really are not hard at all to mount and glue. But I found with a good insert and if you carefully remove the outer securing rim on the wheels for rubber tires. The inner rim supports the insert and the tire bead better.

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I have used these Shimiyzu tires. Bothcompounds and found them to be highly grippe and stable!! Although, not wanting to contradict you here but I found the tires fit better on the stock Tamika wheels for rubber tires then the foam wheels.
don't get me wrong. They do fit fine on the wheels for foam tires and they really are not hard at all to mount and glue. But I found with a good insert and if you carefully remove the outer securing rim on the wheels for rubber tires. The inner rim supports the insert and the tire bead better.

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Could you upload the pictures of shimizu with tamiya rubber rim ?

If it fits, it's great... we have more options to choose of rims.

Thanks for the information.
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Sure. I have two sets glued up. I'll try getting some photos done and uploaded tommorow am.

I want to try the Hard R1 tires next. These sound like they work well

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Sure. I have two sets glued up. I'll try getting some photos done and uploaded tommorow am.

I want to try the Hard R1 tires next. These sound like they work well

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Thank you

R1 Hard will be in stock next week. I'll post here, when it's available.

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Great... I'll give them a go next race meet then.
By the way. Thank you for hooking me up with the F104 kit and all the parts and tires I asked for. Great service and very fast. Thanks!!

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Great... I'll give them a go next race meet then.
By the way. Thank you for hooking me up with the F104 kit and all the parts and tires I asked for. Great service and very fast. Thanks!!

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Thank you.

Glad to hear you like it.
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Performance Scale Remark
Steering (1-5) Based on steering input. (Understeer - Oversteer)
Stability (1-5) Driving down the straight. (Unstable - Stable)
Braking (1-5) High speed braking applied before the a tight corner. (Unstable - Stable)
Feel (1-5) The impression and bounciness of the car. (Floaty - Sticky)
Endurance (1-5) The wear rate of the tire. (Quick - Lasting)
Fade (1-5) Overheat resistance through the race. (Less - More)

Past Test Asphalt
Front Tires Pit Shimizu F3 (PS-0574)
Rear Tires Pit Shimizu R3-S (PS-0579)
Steering 1
Stability 5
Braking 5
Feel 5
Endurance 3
Fade 3


Track Tamiya America Outdoor
Surface Prepared Asphalt
Grip Medium
Weather Sunny, Slightly Windy, 70-75F
Chassis Tamiya F104 PRO Black Special
Setup Soft T-Bar, Soft Front-Springs Right-Height 5mm All-Round, No Friction Plate, Muchmore 400 Oil, Tamiya Soft Black Srping
Powerplant Team Orion Vortex Pro 21.5 Max Motor Timing, KO PROP BLZ ESC
Transmission Spur 93 Pinion 36 (slightly overgeared to reduce acceleration)
Radio KO PROPO Eurus, Steering Curve -25%, Throttle Curve -50%, Brake EPA 60%
Note Each test was only ran around 3-5 laps to get a feel for the initial impression. No tire sauce was applied to keep the test consistent.

Test 1 Asphalt
Front Tires Pit Shimizu F1-S (PS-0571)
Rear Tires Pit Shimizu R1 (PS-0575)
Steering 5
Stability 3
Braking 1
Feel 3
Endurance 2
Fade 3


Test 2 Asphalt
Front Tires Pit Shimizu F1-M (PS-0573)
Rear Tires Pit Shimizu R1 (PS-0575)
Steering 4
Stability 4
Braking 2
Feel 4
Endurance 2
Fade 3


Test 3 Asphalt
Front Tires Pit Shimizu F1-M (PS-0573)
Rear Tires Pit Shimizu R1-H (PS-0572)
Steering 3
Stability 5
Braking 3
Feel 5
Endurance 4
Fade 4


Test 4 Asphalt
Front Tires Pit Shimizu F1-S (PS-0571)
Rear Tires Pit Shimizu R1-H (PS-0572)
Steering 4
Stability 4
Braking 2
Feel 4
Endurance 4
Fade 4


Test 5 Asphalt
Front Tires Ride S1 (24008)
Rear Tires Ride S1 (24010)
Steering 3
Stability 4
Braking 3
Feel 2
Endurance 4
Fade 2


Test 6 Asphalt
Front Tires Tamiya Hard (54198)
Rear Tires Tamiya Soft (54199)
Steering 4
Stability 3
Braking 2
Feel 3
Endurance 3
Fade 4


Track TQ RC Racing
Surface New Carpet
Grip Medium
Weather Indoor, 75-80F
Chassis Tamiya F104 PRO Black Special
Setup Soft T-Bar, Medium Front-Springs Right-Height 5mm All-Round, No Friction Plate, Muchmore 400 Oil, Tamiya Soft Black Srping
Powerplant Team Orion Vortex Pro 21.5 Max Motor Timing, KO PROP BLZ ESC
Transmission Spur 93 Pinion 35 (correctly geared for my setup)
Radio KO PROPO Eurus, Steering Curve -25%, Throttle Curve -25%, Brake EPA 60%
Note Each test was only ran around 3-5 laps to get a feel for the initial impression. No tire sauce was applied to keep the test consistent.

Test 7 Carpet
Front Tires Pit Shimizu F1-S (PS-0571)
Rear Tires Pit Shimizu R1 (PS-0575)
Steering 3
Stability 2
Braking 3
Feel 3
Endurance 3
Fade 3


Test 8 Carpet
Front Tires Pit Shimizu F1-M (PS-0573)
Rear Tires Pit Shimizu R1 (PS-0575)
Steering 1
Stability 3
Braking 4
Feel 4
Endurance 3
Fade 3


Test 9 Carpet
Front Tires Pit Shimizu F1-M (PS-0573)
Rear Tires Pit Shimizu R1-H (PS-0572)
Steering 2
Stability 5
Braking 4
Feel 5
Endurance 4
Fade 5


Test 10 Carpet
Front Tires Pit Shimizu F1-S (PS-0571)
Rear Tires Pit Shimizu R1-H (PS-0572)
Steering 3
Stability 4
Braking 3
Feel 4
Endurance 4
Fade 4


Test 11 Carpet
Front Tires Ride S1 (24008)
Rear Tires Ride S1 (24010)
Steering 2
Stability 4
Braking 4
Feel 3
Endurance 4
Fade 3


Conclusion
The new Pit Shimizu R1-H seemed to grip better than my used R1 (medium), but I am not sure if it's because that the my used R1 has already lost its grip. The fair comparison would be to use a new set of R1 and R1-H for the test. Note that the R1 and R1-H have thinner inserts than the R3 and R3-S. Next, I plan to test different combo out again using 3-series tires, and then finally, mix and match.
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Wow, it's great review.

Thanks Alan.
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Old 07-16-2011, 04:38 AM   #59
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http://www.rcmart.com/catalog/rc-tir...h=595_744_1390

would these be classed as medium or soft?
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would these be classed as medium or soft?
Those tires are medium.

Here is more information.

Front tires
PS-0571: F1-Soft
PS-0573: F1-Medium
PS-0574: F3-Soft
PS-0577: F3-Medium

Rear tires
PS-0575: R1-Soft
PS-0572: R1-Hard
PS-0578: R3-Medium
PS-0579: R3-Soft
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