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Old 10-22-2004, 10:37 AM   #511
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hey steve,

GOOD LUCK back in florida!
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Old 10-22-2004, 10:46 AM   #512
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Thanks Ron! I appreciate it! I think we'll do ok
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Old 10-22-2004, 11:06 AM   #513
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How long was your mullet at its longest point?
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Old 10-22-2004, 11:53 AM   #514
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It was never a mullet... My hair was all relatively equal in length

But at it's longest it was down to my waist I believe..maybe a bit longer
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Old 10-22-2004, 12:08 PM   #515
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Default Theoretical chassis dynamic question

Does it make any sense to go down a path on chassis dynamics that you know going in will be FAr from optimal, therefore requiring drastic other changes to make it work?

Let me provide an example-again all theory and major assumptions being made.

Lets say your goal is to make your car loose to the point of undriveability by say running zero toe-in in back. Then to dial in more mechanical grip-run Pro-squat which adds sidebite, lean in the shocks raise the ballstud on a shorter camber link?

Have you or your Team Losi comprades ventured down these paths-or do you and other drivers always take the KISS method?

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Old 10-22-2004, 12:14 PM   #516
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I almost never KISS Ray

I will always TRY things like that...but generally things just seem to work better "normally"...I can't even count how many times I thought I figured something trick out and raced with it for weeks and then tried "normal" stuff again and went significantly faster....


Now, this is mostly on asphalt... I can see where you're going with a carpet setup...but honestly I think all the stuff you're doing...makes the car unstable...or at least less predictable... but who knows...maybe if I get alot of carpet test time I'll try it

You never learn anything unless you try things!
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Old 10-22-2004, 12:20 PM   #517
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I am just mad at myself-I have had the same set-up on my car for three months and I am sure cars Fast and handling well-but its like I am getting bored and although I am trying to drive fast and tight, fast and tight-I dont think I am really concentrating anymore.

Well-good to know youve done stuff like this. I always see the problem with whacky set-ups is they only work on one layout and sometimes only if you tweak them to DEATH over three weeks or so.

Chnage layouts and -POW-big ole stinky pile of car.....
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Old 10-22-2004, 02:52 PM   #518
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Default Carpet Setup vs Asphalt setup

I noticed some common elements in the carpet setups on the Losi site for the XXX-S.
Most of the setups use a front sway bar, run a diff not a one way, use the 6 degree front spindles, use a heavier shock oil 50 or 60 and use the off set hubs in the back.

I was wondering if there are some general guidelines or tips you can give me for running on a
....... medium size carpet/foam tire stock set up.

Since I have only been competing seriously for 6 months my big concern is making the car easy to drive.


Thanks in advance
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Old 10-22-2004, 03:25 PM   #519
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You could probably pick any of todd hodge's setups off the website and they'll be relatively easy to drive... his cars are always forgiving and fast!
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Old 10-22-2004, 03:25 PM   #520
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I see people refer to push (under steer) and loose (over steer)
in connection with off power and on power turning
an in connection with entering corner mid corner and exiting corner.
I assume exiting corner is generally the same as on power and entering corner is same as off power.
I know the definitins of these terms and have read descriptions
I have a hard time telling which of these conditions describes my cars behavior. I most cases all I observe is if the car trys to take a corner to fast I lose control.

I believe that when they say loose (oversteer)-on power (exiting the corner); they are refering to what happens to me, on occasion, when I round that last corner at the beggining of the straightaway with a little to much speed. The tail end breaks free and I hit the outside board with the rear of the car(usually just hard enough to break something on the suspension).

but you could say that, if my car had a smaller turning radius at that particular speed I would have been closer to the middle of the track and the tail end comming loose abit would not have hit the far rail. SO is my problem oversteer or understeer?


I know the experienced driver can identify handeling problems pretty easy. All I observe is that if I take the corner to fast the car hits something.

I have lately resorted to using 'drag brakes(=neutral position on trigger actually applies brakes)to help me negotiate hairpin 180 degree turns, This helps me scrub enough speed so I can keep control of the car. While this method works for control, my car loses way too much time negotiating the hairpin turns.

Any help or advice would be appreciated.
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The Smart Tray...is it supposed to come with the DC leads in the box? Mine didn't, but it looks like it's mentioned in the "contents" listing on the back of the box.

Does the DC lead plug into the same receptical as the adapter does?

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Old 10-22-2004, 04:05 PM   #522
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Scottrik-- Yes, both plug into the same place on the tray itself... worse comes to worse you can cut the transformer wire (while it's unplugged of course!) and attatch those to your power supply.


Imjonah-- It's hard to say exactly from what you're describing... it'd be alot easier if I was able to actually watch you drive your car around the track...

if your car doesn't have enough steering to go around the corner at the speed you want, it might be that you are pushing the car too hard and breaking the rear end loose ...

it could also be the lines you're taking around the track just aren't allowing you to hit your marks the way you ought to be...

my best advice is to try to find a "fast guy" at your track and see if they can give you a hand by trying your car ... or at the very least watch their lines...pay attention to when they ease off the throttle or when they get back onto the throttle...

Oftentimes a car "pushing on power or out of the corner" is a result of using too much throttle... you'd be surprised how slow you have to go sometimes to be going fast...
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...the DC leads WERE supposed to be in the box?

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BZZZZZZZZZZZTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!! Oh...he said UN-plugged...
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Steve, you know if Charlie is going to Cleveland?
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Old 10-22-2004, 04:15 PM   #525
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Scottrik -- Yes they should have been included... you can probably send customer service a self-addressed stamped envelope and a note saying you did not recieve a dc harness for your smart tray... we should be able to set you up with one... you might want to email [email protected] just to make sure !

Gary- Um, to my knowledge yes... they haven't told us anything about cleveland yet... it might be just him... might be both of us going...who knows!?!??!
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