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Old 09-30-2004, 02:16 PM   #331
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That almost sounds like an R/C handling exam Ray!

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Youve arrived at a high bite carpet/foam race. YOur XXXS base set-up feels good, but car wont initiate turn in as aggresively as youd like, but all else feels good. In 12th terminology-I guess youd say it doesnt have enough cut. The feelings is sort of that front end actually isnt taking a set-it just stays up. Once its turned i t carves a fast smooth line in sweepers. IN chicanes and s-turns-its slugish to change direction then turns hard (maybe from too much steering input to compensate for lack of turn in).

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A)Add Toe-out
B)try antidive with more caster
C)Softer front spring or oil.
D)Raise ballstud on top of caster block.
E)Raise ballstud on rear hub.
F)Shorten front camber link.
G)Harder rear tire or harder front tire.
H)More dual rate.
I)Lower rear roll center.
J)Reduce rebound in frnt shocks?
K)All of the Above
L)None of the above

Now for Evicerator (In Sam Kinnison voice): SAY IT! GO AHEAD, SAY IT!
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Old 09-30-2004, 02:46 PM   #332
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Steve - Nah, me an Barry get along really well. He knows he has to be able to take what he dishes out around me so he behaves.
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Old 09-30-2004, 02:48 PM   #333
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Ray, well I don't really consider myself a "foam tire guru" by any stretch of the imagination... and I don't know what exactly your standard carpet setup is like...but the things I would try first on my car are(and no, not all at the same time; one at a time ):

Sauce more of your front tire
Adding more negative camber to the front end
Softening oil all the way around by 5 wt

To give you an idea about what I changed on my car at the nationals and why:

I went from Losi Orange/white springs to Trinity Purples/Blues:

I actually thought my car felt faster around the track w/ the losi springs but it was kind of hard to keep on top of. I made this change about mid way through practice trying to account for traction getting higher and the Trinity springs gave a slightly more progressive-easier driving feel.

I went lowered my rear hub ballstud 0.030":

I thought the car was better with the high ball stud through all the more rounded, carousell-type corners, but I didn't like the way it rolled through that tight section below the driver's stand... I also thought the higher ballstud in the rear tended to want to have a tendancy want to flip easier

Ran a narrow AE hex in the front instead of wide one:

I thought the slightly narrower (0.020" narrower) hex transitioned better and was more stable through the front section in front of the driver's stand...wasn't quite as good through the sweeping corners...but wasn't as liable to traction roll either.

Basically everything I did was to make my car more consistant/faster through the toughest section of the track and less susceptible to flipping over...

Hopefully some of this info will give you some ideas...??

Let me know if you have anymore questions...
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Old 09-30-2004, 02:50 PM   #334
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That was way too serious of an answer
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Old 09-30-2004, 02:54 PM   #335
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Whoa, there's like smoke coming out of his ears now. He had to overclock his processor to come up with that one. Thanks a lot, now Steve won't have any more brilliant statements for a very long time.
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Old 09-30-2004, 02:57 PM   #336
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hehe nah, just gimme 10 min and I'll be ready to go again!
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Old 09-30-2004, 03:09 PM   #337
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Thats funny, your exgirlfriend told me you used to tell her that all the time and it never happened
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That was way too serious of an answer
Whew-just in time-gotta leave for practice now-hahaha!!


Traction at Gate has been HIGH for club racing-really high-this info will be of tremendous help.

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Old 09-30-2004, 03:16 PM   #339
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My ears have been wide open
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Thats funny, your exgirlfriend told me you used to tell her that all the time and it never happened
LMAO!
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Old 09-30-2004, 03:28 PM   #341
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Wow... she must be angry for some other reason then to make up that kind of lie
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Old 09-30-2004, 04:12 PM   #342
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Steve - Did you get your parts yet? Dave Bowser got his parts earlier this week. Lemieux is testing out his parts at Fernando's this weekend. The guys at Schu UK were telling me Spashett was running his parts this last weekend.
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Old 09-30-2004, 04:19 PM   #343
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I got my parts last week actually... but I broke some stuff and just got some more replacement parts today... so we'll resume testing!
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Old 09-30-2004, 04:22 PM   #344
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How do you gear the new car?
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Old 09-30-2004, 04:33 PM   #345
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Depends on what castor blocks you are running!
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