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Old 10-20-2005, 07:54 AM   #1846
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The " If you build it they will come " statement doesn't hold water, at least for me. If the track is not in the perfect location it is doomed. I have learned that you have to look at the economics of the area that you propose to do the track, the number of people in the area that have an interest in such a facility. I learned the hard way " if you build it they will come " only lasts a short time. The serious race that comes out once or twice a month to race doesn't pay the bills, you need to have a base of local enthusiast that will come to you track on a regular basis. Just as an example, to prep and maintain a outdoor asphalt track is $50.00 min. per day not including man hours. Now if you on average have 5 or 6 guys on a daily basis at $5.00 per driver thats $30.00 per day so the track takes a hit of $20.00 each day and over a month period thats a hard hit. Sometimes the track would go 6 days with no use. This is just an example of the daily hit, the up front costs will take years to recoupe. Just for the hell of it I will share some numbers: Asphalt $17,000.00, boards for perimeter of the track with paint and steel stakes to secure the boards $1,000.00, electrical for pits $2,000.00, drivers stand $5,000.00, Road Rails and other interior boarders $2,500.00, pit tables, chairs, shade, air compressor $1,500.00, Amb system and computer $8,000.00, equipment to maintain the track $1,000.00, and insurance. This is just some of the expenses I could come up with off the top of my head and are all round numbers, so you are looking at a total of aprrox. $38,000.00 before you open the doors. So my lesson was you better be damn sure " they are going to come " and if that was the case we would have tracks spring'n up all over the place.

Don't get me wrong, I had great support from a lot of people and I would do it again, but location and economics of the area would play a major part in such venture.

Sorry to go off on a rant here but as you can tell I have a hard time with the " If you build it they will come " line.

Look what Skuba started
And then add a hobby shop...$$$...
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Old 10-20-2005, 01:18 PM   #1847
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I guess so. Didn't mean to kill the thread. I'll just have to start a new thread the next time I pitch a bitch.

And yes Bill, a shop. Don't get me started.
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So...Weebles...they wobble but they don't fall down... DISCUSS!!
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Old 10-20-2005, 01:54 PM   #1849
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Stop talking about me like that , Steve......LOL
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Stop talking about me like that , Steve......LOL
He canít be talking about you Barry, because you fall down!
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Barry Baker yelled at me!
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For me i find it odd to to the abundance of tracks in my area maybe in America you need to bone up on where the racers are what class the race and what they want and also find alternative use for the track as well. And find out the driving distance keep to under 40 miles per a 50 or 60 racers.
Also do you have like public indoor gymns or indoor basketball courts they make great indoor carpet track facilitys and pitting areas for a saturday night race meet that how we race in the uk most of the time for the winter.
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And yes Bill, a shop. Don't get me started.
Feed the flame...Feed the flame...Feed the flame...
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For me i find it odd to to the abundance of tracks in my area maybe in America you need to bone up on where the racers are what class the race and what they want and also find alternative use for the track as well. And find out the driving distance keep to under 40 miles per a 50 or 60 racers.
Also do you have like public indoor gymns or indoor basketball courts they make great indoor carpet track facilitys and pitting areas for a saturday night race meet that how we race in the uk most of the time for the winter.
Yep! I have been to Penicuik, Scotland to see the racing on their wood gym floor...
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NOW NOW we dont need any fire storms in 2005 !!!!!!!!!! just chill brutha man
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Well, today in science class we learned that fires need air to burn . So just blow on it!
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Uh oh!

I'm gonna have to move!
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