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Old 09-10-2012, 07:46 AM
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Speaking of Losa #3344, I bought a set, built it, and never put it on my TC4 since I decided to turn it into a drift car. I have the LOSA 3344 JRX-S along with several sets of the LOSA C-Hubs that are still BNIP. Anyone want them?
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Originally Posted by mdwalsh
something that i did that really helped rear grip was trimmed the rear chassis braces off, gave the back end some more flex and the car was pretty dialed on my track!

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Would you elaborate please? Some pics would be helpful as well.

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Originally Posted by nubie-wan
Would you elaborate please? Some pics would be helpful as well.

Thanks!


something like that. it was simple and it made the rear end of the car much more predictable.

ill be working on a nice set-up for the car in the coming month, so ill be updating yall as i go.

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Before removing chassis braces which may lead to stripped gears and bent shafts I would first work on the suspension to properly set up the car.
I see you have blue springs in the rear, have you tried silver or green ?? both will increase rear traction. There are so many adjustments on the TC4 to add or remove traction I dont understand why you would start by removing chassis braces
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Originally Posted by Rojna
Before removing chassis braces which may lead to stripped gears and bent shafts I would first work on the suspension to properly set up the car.
I see you have blue springs in the rear, have you tried silver or green ?? both will increase rear traction. There are so many adjustments on the TC4 to add or remove traction I dont understand why you would start by removing chassis braces
i didnt have springs to change at the track yesterday. i dont see any reason it should change the gear mesh... i even checked that at the track, it doesnt change.

we'll see how it holds up.

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Old 09-10-2012, 10:29 AM
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Springs and roll center on the arms and upper links are good places to start, I usally run green or silver springs in the rear with #3 shims under both rear arm mounts and 3mm spacers under the upper link.
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How well could a TC4 do against the newer chassis? I'm thinking of getting a cheap TC4 (plastic tub version) to race in 17.5 blinky class. I don't really want to spend $400 or more on a current chassis because I really don't know how much racing I'll be doing. I'm assuming since 17.5 isn't exactly a lot of power, even an old chassis like the TC4 should do ok. What do you think?
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Originally Posted by jha07
How well could a TC4 do against the newer chassis? I'm thinking of getting a cheap TC4 (plastic tub version) to race in 17.5 blinky class. I don't really want to spend $400 or more on a current chassis because I really don't know how much racing I'll be doing. I'm assuming since 17.5 isn't exactly a lot of power, even an old chassis like the TC4 should do ok. What do you think?
this is my plan to a t. ill let you know how it works out... from the surface of it yesterday my buddys tc6 was running identical lap times. we were on similar tires, and had similar motor/esc set-ups.

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If you don't have a solid spool for your TC4, I would suggest getting one if running it in 17.5. It will help the car get out of the corner if you are running on a high bite surface. The TC4 club racer comes with a solid front spool.

The only major tuning advantage that newer cars have is gear diffs - since they can change oil as a tuning option. The only AE options for the TC4 are ball diff, solid spool, and one-way. However, there are DIY options to create a slipper spool out of a stock TC4 ball diff with a few inexpensive parts.
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so raising the inner camber links on the rear=more rear traction?

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well i pulled apart my rear end... and the outdrives were totally destroyed. steel is going to be a must with brushless stuff

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Originally Posted by mdwalsh
well i pulled apart my rear end... and the outdrives were totally destroyed. steel is going to be a must with brushless stuff

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That's not good. How did the composite CVD's hold up in the rear?
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Originally Posted by jha07
That's not good. How did the composite CVD's hold up in the rear?
they seem to be fine... however i currently have some aluminum ones up front, and once my steel losi lcds get here the aluminum ones are getting rebuilt and put on the back.

im curious how long my diff had been like that though, cause i was running almost the same lap times all day. it didnt have much punch out of slow corners, guess i know why... i also now know why my front tires were 15 degrees warmer.

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Tc4 gearing for 17.5 blinky : 3.65fdr ! Lots of throttle expo and throttle acceleration to punch out of corners.....
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Originally Posted by mdwalsh
i didnt have springs to change at the track yesterday. i dont see any reason it should change the gear mesh... i even checked that at the track, it doesnt change.

we'll see how it holds up.

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The reason it could change gear mesh is that you have two things - spur and pinion - which are connected to separate pieces.

spur is locked to the center of the car and pinion is locked to the motor which is locked to the "wing"

When you take away the bracing that keeps the "wing" rigid to the center of the car, you allow it to flex which can change the distance between the pinion (locked to the "wing") and the spur, which means the mesh changes. . .


Springs aren't expensive and are a great tuning option. I would buy them before I cut away structure. . .
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