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Old 09-23-2005, 10:07 AM   #1471
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Come on Adrian, it's not that bad... lol. Ok, maybe just a little. Mom is right it looks like more of a salmon color.
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Old 09-23-2005, 10:17 AM   #1472
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So Anyone handing out indoor set-up advise ??

the track is techincal with a low bite carpet

@ present i'm running 0.18 front springs 5deg. blocks with a spacers either side on the upper arms and parma purple front tires

on the rear i'm using a .63 t-bar crc red top oil in the damper plate and parma grey tires.

Shock is the new crc one with 30w oil (associated) and crc red spring

Additives jack the gripper (local fav.) half the fronts and all the rears


Problems....

Rear end is going loose at the end of the races when it'll just "step out " if pushed too hard.

Front end dosen't have enough mid or exit corner steering

So far i'm thinking Parma violets for the front tires and changing to a 0.20 spring as i think the 0.18 might have been too soft and bottoming out ??

At the rear i was going to change the spring to an ass. blue as the red seems overly hard from what i read on here !

I need help though as i'm fairly off the pace at the moment
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Old 09-23-2005, 10:39 AM   #1473
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So Anyone handing out indoor set-up advise ??

the track is techincal with a low bite carpet

@ present i'm running 0.18 front springs 5deg. blocks with a spacers either side on the upper arms and parma purple front tires

on the rear i'm using a .63 t-bar crc red top oil in the damper plate and parma grey tires.

Shock is the new crc one with 30w oil (associated) and crc red spring

Additives jack the gripper (local fav.) half the fronts and all the rears


Problems....

Rear end is going loose at the end of the races when it'll just "step out " if pushed too hard.

Front end dosen't have enough mid or exit corner steering

So far i'm thinking Parma violets for the front tires and changing to a 0.20 spring as i think the 0.18 might have been too soft and bottoming out ??

At the rear i was going to change the spring to an ass. blue as the red seems overly hard from what i read on here !

I need help though as i'm fairly off the pace at the moment
Change the rear spring to an AE silver. Blue and Red are way too hard.

Most guys run a .075 T-bar on carpet but I have run the .063" if the gir is a bit low. Be sure to run all three t-bar pod screws.

Try the .020" front springs.

Keep the purple/grey tire combo.

How much caster are you running?
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Old 09-23-2005, 10:55 AM   #1474
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Thanks for the prompt and helpful reply

5deg. front blocks with a spacer each side of the blocks

Front CAMBER set so tires wear even around 2 deg's i'd guess
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Old 09-23-2005, 04:03 PM   #1475
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Right played again .......

Parma Violet fronts, 0.20 springs , 5deg blocks with a spacer each side on the upper arms , Camber set for even tires wear......around 2deg's.

Center spring Ass. green with Ass. 30wt oil

Parma Pink rears , crc heavy damper oil on the disc.

chassis set for abut 4.5mm front and 5mm rear ground clearence (can't go much less because of bumps)

Now the rear is planted , turn in is overly aggressive but i'm still suffering with a lack of mid and exit corner steering(not terrible though). It dose however stay consistantly like this throughout the race

***BUT*** it is drivable now , like a million times better than it was before tonight.

Any other jem's to help sort it out appreciated
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Old 09-23-2005, 04:10 PM   #1476
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Merciless,
On low bite carpet tracks here I run:
Front:
CRC purple tires 1.75" with niftech traction 3/4 of tire
.018" springs, make sure there is no sag, may need another shim
10 deg up rights
1.5 deg. of camber
shims back on top a-arm
servo mounted flat
4mm clearance
Rear:
CRC magenta tires 1.85" with niftech full
.075 power push t-bar
VCS shock w/ 35 wt. oil and green spring
2 screws in t-plate mount to pod
100 wt. oil on dampening washers
4.5mm clearance

Make sure you have the chassis raked .5mm and the top of the pod should be parallel to the ground if your shock length is correct. I run enough stearing to do a 2 or 3 ft. diameter turn when checking my left and right stearing throw. Add just a bit of roll to the car so it creaps at the starting line.

The spring you had and the grey rears make it hard to drive. I run grey rears only at very high bite tracks. The Parma fronts are also wider then most manufacture's fronts, you may want to narrow them some and glue the side wall.

Hope this helps
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Old 09-23-2005, 04:15 PM   #1477
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One other thing, batteries middle to forward. The car will want to delay then come around if they are too far back.
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Old 09-24-2005, 01:43 AM   #1478
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One other thing, batteries middle to forward. The car will want to delay then come around if they are too far back.
That's interesting i've been running them full back or about 3mm forward from rear. So that i will try Thx's
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Old 09-24-2005, 05:26 AM   #1479
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Does everyone use a L3 or a L4 to build there BMI around?
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Old 09-24-2005, 08:11 AM   #1480
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Does everyone use a L3 or a L4 to build there BMI around?
they are pretty much the same. the question would be i fyou wanted the big ring diff or the small and the front with the 0/5/10 block
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Old 09-24-2005, 02:46 PM   #1481
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SG1 ,

Just some more info on the 10deg. caster blocks.

From my touring days i understand increasing the caster will decrease turn in but increase mid and exit corner steering .Dose this run true for 12th also.

I.e my car is very aggressive turning in and pushes mid corner and on corner exit now with the 5deg. blocks.

Changing to the 10deg. blocks should decrease corner entry grip (sensitivity) but increase mid and exit corner steering ?? yes ??

Thanks for the help
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Old 09-26-2005, 04:44 AM   #1482
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Old 09-26-2005, 08:26 AM   #1483
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Rick,
Iether one will work, most guys buy the conversion then pick up the missing parts they don't have laying around.

Merciless,
The 10 deg. should give more in stearing, if it pushes in the middle of the turn you have iether too much rear bite (too soft rear tire or t-plate) or not enough camber in the front (try 2 deg.). Some guys like to try to transfer weight to the front with a stiffer center spring (silver). Try a few of these and let me know how it goes.

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New BMI-12A Asphalt Special announced on the 1-12th forum:

http://www.rctech.net/forum/showthre...08#post1836908
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Recieved my BMI 1/12 conversion kit yesterday from [email protected] and WOW what a quality conversion it is. Its got by far the highest quality carbon components i have ever seen in 1/12 and 1/10 touring, pre chamfered battery slots, chassis that is already nicley prepped round all the edges (no need for filing just straight in with the CA) and 2 options for pod damping. What more could you want. Everything is such a nice fit, just need my L4 which will be here on thursday. Thanks again Jason.
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