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Old 08-31-2004, 07:23 PM   #76
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Okay, let's continue this on the 415 thread.. hehe....
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V12 its a Great Coverage race you got there.

1 question, is the alumn diff lighter than the stock?
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V12- you did an outstanding job covering this race.
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Old 09-01-2004, 06:24 AM   #79
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@ V12: Excellent report and informations!

Attached in .zip the tech chart of the race, can be viewed in Excell.

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Thx Oscar.
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Okay, let's continue this on the 415 thread.. hehe....
cya in there

and deffiently a great job V12, tech info was very useful, same to you Oscar, thanks for the tech chart.

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Old 09-01-2004, 10:09 AM   #82
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Thanks guys. Thanks Oscar. Itīs nice seing you here.

Iīm just back from work so couldnīt respond earlier to your questions.
But trying to catch up now.
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Yup deffiently the subaru, i have one sitting here beside me, all masked up waiting for painting tomorrow....

Quick pic: Note the window shape, then check with Marcs car
I think on your body you could see some details better than on Marcs body because his paintjob seem to hide some things.

But this body looks very much like developed by Ride. I think Steve from Speedtech said something like this also regarding the prototyp some time ago.
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Thanks for the pics V12. Great Coverage!

Just a note on the TC3 pic that you posted... but is it me... or does it look like the camber link mounts like a TC4?
Maybe but I have to say I really didnīt noticed this before. Just on the pictures. So this is possible. But I have to say itīs also possible Saschas father made this parts as he is very good in making special parts. Wouldnīt be the first time.
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Hey V12 can you help with this.
Looking at that pic (rear end of marcs car) it looks like he's running a c block on the rear suspension. To get 2deg of rear toe with the alu hubs, wouldn't he have have to been running a A block as the forward block?

IRCC you said they were running the C/A combination on the front as well? wouldn't this narrow down the overall width of the car?

Hope you can help

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Marc was running a B and a C block at the rear arms. So using the aluminium rear uprights 1.5° overall.
2° was the casterblocks he was running in the front.

I think all of the TRF drivers were running the C/A blocks in the front as this gives massive steering as needed on this track.
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amazing report and very good pics
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V12 its a Great Coverage race you got there.

1 question, is the alumn diff lighter than the stock?
As plastic is lighter than aluminium the stock diff will be lighter. Canīt say how much but I donīt think it will be that much. As soon as I get my diffs (front and rear) I will know exactly.

But I know some guys running aluminium diffs on their TC3 (IRS I think) Mi2 and Xray and all of them like them much more than plastic diffs. They say exactly the same as Jürgen told me.
An aluminium diff is running much more true and smooth and is working for much longer as there is no slippage over a run. A plastic diff will slip or change during a run because of the heat.
Another thing is over time the plastic diffhalves and the dogbones will have much wear and so there also is much play in this stage. I absolutely hate this but donīt want changing these parts all the time.
The newest Jürgen diffs are using the Corally blades which will prevent this. I always liked this with the Corally and Xray cars and now will have this with the Tamiya also. It just isnīt available for the oneway until now.
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A plastic diff will slip or change during a run because of the heat.
Another thing is over time the plastic diffhalves and the dogbones will have much wear and so there also is much play in this stage. I absolutely hate this but donīt want changing these parts all the time.
Also a plastic dif can melt if it isn't really set right with some mod motors but i haven't seen this happen much

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Also a plastic dif can melt if it isn't really set right with some mod motors but i haven't seen this happen much

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I havenīt seen this but heard of.
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yes, c/a in the front gives much steering. is used a/a. with c/a the car is pretty nervous to drive. but marc is able to handle that....

the new evo4 suspention is absolutly great! its a bit lighter and with the 2° casterblocks you got an incredible grip in the corner.
nice race an nice power (thanks oscar)

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