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Old 03-10-2011, 06:16 PM   #16
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Foam tc is a much better race then rubber.. Cars are closer less penalty for a rub, nudge or push... Even less on a wall touch... Money game is the same run what your local track runs. And from what I can see foam is on the rise across the board at club level.
I tell you I need to move up your way don't I. I said foams were dead last year at snowbirds. 13.5 foam there was the last major event in over a year to run foam with a full heat. plus the fact when I made the "A" main in foam at vegas 09 halloween classic 09 indoor champs 09 grand prix 10 and snowbirds 10 it pretty much proved that all the fast drivers had moved back to rubber and were staying there.

when scotty puts carpet back in Trackside and runs 2 heats of foam I'll eat my words.

as reference to the OP run rubber on TC you can't get compounds to run TC foam on the same track with tc rubber Tyre like you can with 12th scale when the FUZZ comes up.
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Those rubs, nudges, wall touches or pushes usually resulted in a chunked tire.
Properly seam glue the foams, and that problem dissolves. I get so sick of chunking being the excuse for rubber being superior. The ONLY reason rubber is the new standard is because foams are a bit more work. I can actually run a whole weekend on 1 set of magentas with no loss of performance at a club race. No chunks, no peeling, etc. I've seen Jaco blues completely trashed after one run.
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I enjoy racing on foam too, at probably one of the last clubs in the uk that race foam.

Racing is close, premounted foam tyres are a reasonable price. Grip is massive, probably too much!

The cars probably need more setup work on them to work well though, especially on very high grip tracks, or you will get frustrated with grip roll.
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The ONLY reason rubber is the new standard is because foams are a bit more work.
Well, it's also because foam is for losers!
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Well, it's also because foam is for losers!

Actually, WINNERS race 12th scale (all foam). Skinny 4wd buggies are for On-Road Poseurs.

Rubber tires are for T-Maxxes imo.
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Not too many tracks running foam tired TC cars any longer. Did your track in Colorado bring it back?

The feel of a rubber tired TC car and a 1/12th scale car are vastly different when it comes to driving them on a carpet track.

If you are a student on a budget, I would recommend specializing in one category or the other to achieve maximum results and more personal satisfaction. IMO spreading yourself thin (in both) is not the way to go.

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Actually, WINNERS race 12th scale (all foam).
12th scale is the rollerblading of RC Racing.
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Properly seam glue the foams, and that problem dissolves. I get so sick of chunking being the excuse for rubber being superior. The ONLY reason rubber is the new standard is because foams are a bit more work. I can actually run a whole weekend on 1 set of magentas with no loss of performance at a club race. No chunks, no peeling, etc. I've seen Jaco blues completely trashed after one run.
Sem glue? How do you do that?
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Sem glue? How do you do that?
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I carefully apply a bead of CA on the edge of the wheel where it meets the foam tire. Then, I use the cutting edge of an Xacto knife to evenly spread a thin amount of CA on that wheel edge and about 1/8" of the foam tire.

This is a major help to prevent chunking tires during close racing and/or grazing track barriers.

I like Losi Standard CA for this purpose.

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Foams are great for TC modern fitted foams like Geckos and concepts don't chunk as they are essentially formed on the wheels. We race them on carpet if you race rubbers you will not even come close as they just do not have the grip.

A set of these foams lasts 8-12 meetings before we replace them. We also don't need additive due to the grip we get.

Btw this is with 10.5 not mod motors
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12th scale is the rollerblading of RC Racing.
TC racing is as exciting as televised bowling. Actually it's more like riding a stationary bike. All that work and it gets you nowhere.....

You're entitled to your opinion, regardless of how wrong it is.......
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TC racing is as exciting as televised bowling. Actually it's more like riding a stationary bike. All that work and it gets you nowhere.....

You're entitled to your opinion, regardless of how wrong it is.......
Nice...

You all know it is a $$$$ issue right?

Spec tires saved Rubber tire...Sepc foams, not going to happen, still only last a few runs....
Foam TC was great, but it was a flat out battle of cash. You want to be like the "fast" guys, you run ALOT of foam tires....

12th and pan cars don't eat the tires like a TC did, they get a few more runs on them.

WGT works because it's a hard spec tire, great idea IMOP....

crap I just wasted my own time on this...
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I'm new to on-road but I have been running at a new track (ozite loads of traction) it's just been practice for the four meets. First few meets I was running foams w no traction compound. Traction was awesome but a full day of practice and my foams were toast. Last week I was running rubber with some jack the gripper. Traction was very good but not nearly as hooked up as w foams and my setup was much better. After a good hour plus of track time I could still see remnants of the seam in the tire. Personally I would trade foams traction for rubbers longevity and obviously the racing community feels the same. This hobby is expensive enough and my wallet is too thin LOL
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