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Old 08-31-2004, 08:34 PM   #151
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It's funny to see how upset and defensive people get over a car they've never even seen in person, let alone tested. Why not blindly defend a product you have no knowledge of simply because the jpeg you saw say's AE and it's the new thing?
The same can be said of your Critique........and I am not even an AE loyalist. Must be the Hot air in SAC.
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Old 08-31-2004, 09:23 PM   #152
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brilliant, didn't take long for the thread to get bitchy....

I was going ot enter into this but have decided against it.
Sufice to say, Griffen I see your point, but I also agree with Jack Smash's point too.
You do kinda put your own foot in your mouth with your response though. I doubt very much AE would make a loss on them, but would probably make MORE profit if they did use identical ones all round. (and I know with a materials/manufacturing background )

Anyway, I reckon we'll deffiently see this car at the worlds, will it do something the TC3 never has?
And incidently the TC3 will [probably] stop winning soon, as all the AE drivers switch to the tc4 (unless AE have made a complete hash of it , which is very doubtful)
Dunno, but i'm routing for the 415 drivers myself
Agreed, though I'm not so sure if it'll be seen in the Worlds, I did hear(from an anonymous source) that at least one factory driver is not yet as fast with the new car as with his older ones, so for the moment he's planning on using his TC3's in the Worlds(though I'm sure testing will continue, & if he finds something that gives the new car an edge, he'll probably try it). And about the whole design subject, I'd only ask this of Griffin, have you ever heard the phrase: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"? I seriously doubt there will be a car as revolutionary as the TC3 come along for some time, so it only makes sense that a car as good as it still is gets more evolutionary than revolutionary changes. And, if the word from the grapevine is true, that can also open the door for a CONVERSION KIT for owners of older TC3's, so we may not need to but a completely new car to have the latest. And THAT sounds like GOOD customer solutions to me....
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Old 08-31-2004, 09:48 PM   #153
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All I can say is I'm happy for Associated and support their move in releasing the new car & I'm considering getting it or the parts to convert to it
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Old 08-31-2004, 10:08 PM   #154
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I think that as far as car design goes you are not going to see any real revolutionary suspension designs for a while,I think it's the same on drive systems also,And I do think alot of it comes down to a money issue,But Tamiya does seem to get people to pay very high prices for their latest and greatest TC's.The difference with the Japanese and American companys is the way the market for their product is geared,The Japanese market tends to demand a "new" car about every 6 mo.,Not alot of time to really R&D a car(Yokomo is one of the few to stick with the same basic design for a while)The American market tends not to want a new(design)car every 6 mo.So it does tend to give them some time to R&D a car.I'm sure Associated looked at their options before "just rehashing" or a totally new car.I still think they made the right choice..Time will tell
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I'm gonna have a hard time giving up my TC3, so I hope there is a conversion kit for the steering and suspension and what not.

BTW- What country is HPI based in? I know that they are Hobby Products International, but are they an American company, Japanese company, or European company? (for example: AE is American, Tamiya is Japanese,etc.) Or is it something else?
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I'm gonna have a hard time giving up my TC3, so I hope there is a conversion kit for the steering and suspension and what not.

BTW- What country is HPI based in? I know that they are Hobby Products International, but are they an American company, Japanese company, or European company? (for example: AE is American, Tamiya is Japanese,etc.) Or is it something else?
I believe they are Japan based.
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I believe they are Japan based.
I guess that makes sense since Japan always gets things before we do in the US. Plus, their best driver is Japanese.
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HPI's best is not just their best but world best

If you read HPI's history, it originated in USA
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Yes, HPI was founded in the USA--their being a Japanese company is a common misconception.
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Old 08-31-2004, 11:25 PM   #162
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I remembered when the they first released their F1 car........I knew they originated from the US, but sometimes, it does seem that they came from Japan. Was their manufacturing facility in Japan, and then they imported their products?
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Old 09-01-2004, 12:22 AM   #163
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I'm sure you've all seen these pix, but here are some more you might not have seen.....

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Tony- When can we expect to see the first kits make their way to the shelves?
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Old 09-01-2004, 12:37 AM   #165
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Ummm, not sure yet. Should be on schedule, which is late Sept, or i think that's what the press release says.

If ya want, you can come over and drive mine...
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