Serpent S411
#3526
I think what Johnny means is that instead of using the 4mm spacers he uses 3mm spacers + a 1mm slide in shim. This means that roll centre changes can be made by easily removing the sliding shim rather than unscrewing the whole front end to change the spacer length.
Simon
Simon
#3527
So yes, if I would leave the 1mm shim in the f/f, I would use two .5mm shims to equal 1mm and be level. If I run a .5mm shim in the r/f I would change the f/f shim to .5mm as well to keep the arm level. Of course if I wanted to run kick I would add or subtract shims to get the adjustment I'm looking for.
The point of this, is using the 3mm spacers in place of the 4mm spacer in the r/f, and then just using the shims to set the lower roll center is a lot easier and faster to do than actually having to remove screws and spacers.
#3528
Hey Martin
We need to find a way to get you out here on the westcoast (Victoria and Vancouver ) I think you will be pleasantly pleased with the competition level out here .
I know that you have probably met keith from ocra and possibly Blake from Victoria . I think it would be a great way to promote the car . Maybe we could even get you in to a nitro touring car one day . Keep up the great work the info you provide really helps .
We need to find a way to get you out here on the westcoast (Victoria and Vancouver ) I think you will be pleasantly pleased with the competition level out here .
I know that you have probably met keith from ocra and possibly Blake from Victoria . I think it would be a great way to promote the car . Maybe we could even get you in to a nitro touring car one day . Keep up the great work the info you provide really helps .
Cheers.
#3529
i need alittle help
the rear of my car is really lose with almost no rear traction even using light throttle on asphalt
im running my s411 box stock (with exotek 2mm chassis) im using the stock set up with an Orion 17.5 and sweep 32 premounts
thanks for any ideas
the rear of my car is really lose with almost no rear traction even using light throttle on asphalt
im running my s411 box stock (with exotek 2mm chassis) im using the stock set up with an Orion 17.5 and sweep 32 premounts
thanks for any ideas
#3530
#3531
how much droop are you running on the front and rear of the car? Are you running 3.0 degrees rear toe-in. Also what are you running for shock oils, pistons and rear diff oil?
#3532
how much droop are you running on the front and rear of the car? Are you running 3.0 degrees rear toe-in. Also what are you running for shock oils and pistons and rear diff oil?
#3533
im running 3 degree rear toe
1.4mm sway bars
50k front and rear shock oil
3 hole pistons
orange front spring/yellow rear
i will be honest, i have seen droop measured so many different ways that have different out comes that i would prefer to keep it out of the equation for now (also im under qualified to get it right lol)
#3534
6mm ride height
light weight mazdaspeed6 body
light weight mazdaspeed6 body
#3535
I've got one on it's way!
BTW, is this car called "S Four Eleven" or "S Four One One" ?
BTW, is this car called "S Four Eleven" or "S Four One One" ?
#3536
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thankyou i will try it sunday and report back
my rear diff oil is 1200cst
im running 3 degree rear toe
1.4mm sway bars
50k front and rear shock oil
3 hole pistons
orange front spring/yellow rear
i will be honest, i have seen droop measured so many different ways that have different out comes that i would prefer to keep it out of the equation for now (also im under qualified to get it right lol)
my rear diff oil is 1200cst
im running 3 degree rear toe
1.4mm sway bars
50k front and rear shock oil
3 hole pistons
orange front spring/yellow rear
i will be honest, i have seen droop measured so many different ways that have different out comes that i would prefer to keep it out of the equation for now (also im under qualified to get it right lol)
I don't have Martins level of knowledge but I think that the diff oil is too heavy for your track surface. I would suggest dropping this to < 800cst
Simon
#3537
thankyou i will try it sunday and report back
my rear diff oil is 1200cst
im running 3 degree rear toe
1.4mm sway bars
50k front and rear shock oil
3 hole pistons
orange front spring/yellow rear
i will be honest, i have seen droop measured so many different ways that have different out comes that i would prefer to keep it out of the equation for now (also im under qualified to get it right lol)
my rear diff oil is 1200cst
im running 3 degree rear toe
1.4mm sway bars
50k front and rear shock oil
3 hole pistons
orange front spring/yellow rear
i will be honest, i have seen droop measured so many different ways that have different out comes that i would prefer to keep it out of the equation for now (also im under qualified to get it right lol)
Droop is very important as this will effect how much weight is over the rear wheels either on power or off power.
Place the car on a setup board push the suspention in the front and rear down a few times then holding the rear wheels down lift the shock tower to see how much droop you have. There is no correct droop measurement every driving style is different i run very little droop like 2mm up travel front and back.
The rear diff to way to thick oil.
I'm running 800cst Xceed on medium grip asphalt even thinking about 600cst!!!!
One more question did you mention you have 50k shock oil as in 50000cst shock oil???
#3539
Hi Serpent guy,
Droop is very important as this will effect how much weight is over the rear wheels either on power or off power.
Place the car on a setup board push the suspention in the front and rear down a few times then holding the rear wheels down lift the shock tower to see how much droop you have. There is no correct droop measurement every driving style is different i run very little droop like 2mm up travel front and back.
The rear diff to way to thick oil.
I'm running 800cst Xceed on medium grip asphalt even thinking about 600cst!!!!
One more question did you mention you have 50k shock oil as in 50000cst shock oil???
Droop is very important as this will effect how much weight is over the rear wheels either on power or off power.
Place the car on a setup board push the suspention in the front and rear down a few times then holding the rear wheels down lift the shock tower to see how much droop you have. There is no correct droop measurement every driving style is different i run very little droop like 2mm up travel front and back.
The rear diff to way to thick oil.
I'm running 800cst Xceed on medium grip asphalt even thinking about 600cst!!!!
One more question did you mention you have 50k shock oil as in 50000cst shock oil???
#3540
Yes droop has about half a dozen different ways of doing it. How are you setting yours, or at least, are you using Hudy droop blocks and droop gauge? Or just the over ride height method with a ride height gauge?
I prefer the method Martin Crisp showed me, using a Tamiya droop guage and going off the bottom of the chassis. Its quick, accurate and consistent.