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Old 03-29-2006, 01:33 PM   #6721
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So then, it's just your opinion, and not based on your superior knowledge of fluid mechanics, dynamic systems, and mechanical vibration?
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Old 03-29-2006, 01:44 PM   #6722
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OK, genius:

For internal incompressible flow, the flow rate of a fluid is defined as:

Q = (pi*delta p*diameter^4) / (128 *mu*length)

and the average velocity is:

V = Q / A

Nowhere, in either equation, is the "amount of fluid on top of the piston" even a factor. Flow through a hole is a product of cross-sectional area only, and not volume. All of the other variables are contant (viscosity, diameter, length, pressure, etc)
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Old 03-29-2006, 02:01 PM   #6723
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Well, it's hard to argue with the facts. Clearly we're all unnecessarily butchering our shock shafts, and should heed your expert advice. Touché.
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Old 03-29-2006, 02:13 PM   #6724
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McSmooth, I think in some cases you might be right on this...but this depends on a few factors that you are not mentioning....Tire size, ride height and shock position. Also, you didn't mention that when you use the Associated spring retainers it allows the shock to compress more before any load is put on the spring, which is what needs to happen when you use the lower shock tower. I don't think you trick will work with any size tire....
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Old 03-29-2006, 02:51 PM   #6725
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actually i do happen to know McSmooth does run several different tire sizes and yet changes nothing in the way his shocks are set up....i know this because he trues his tires with our truer.
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Old 03-29-2006, 04:46 PM   #6726
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When did this go from having fun with a toy car to quantum physics?
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You guys put oil in your shocks?!?! Dorks....
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When did this go from having fun with a toy car to quantum physics?
Yes, we attach the flux capacitor to the ESC, and therefore.....
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Old 03-29-2006, 05:35 PM   #6729
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When did this go from having fun with a toy car to quantum physics?

Hey Kenny you need to change your avatar to say "Fast Chargin"...
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When did this go from having fun with a toy car to quantum physics?
BOTH! Physics was my minor in school.

As for the Associated spring retainers, they're only used for 'geometry'.

It put the spring lower on the shock, so that more threads are available to run larger tire sizes. I can run as big as 60mm quite easily.
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OK, genius:

For internal incompressible flow, the flow rate of a fluid is defined as:

Q = (pi*delta p*diameter^4) / (128 *mu*length)

and the average velocity is:

V = Q / A

Nowhere, in either equation, is the "amount of fluid on top of the piston" even a factor. Flow through a hole is a product of cross-sectional area only, and not volume. All of the other variables are contant (viscosity, diameter, length, pressure, etc)





damn...and you race toy cars

I have been running the car for 2 years and havent cut anything but the spring retainers so they sit lower and it gives me 10 times more droop than I will ever run, although I think the biggest tire I can run is 2.30, but on foams
I think the car is prime on 2.22-2.25.
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Old 03-29-2006, 06:22 PM   #6732
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Well I guess if both McSmooth and Mo Denton dont believe its necessary to cut the shafts then it should simply be something that is the judgement of each individual opinion.....thanks Mo

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Hey Kenny you need to change your avatar to say "Fast Chargin"...
Oh so now I'm hard and fast huh? lol
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You guys put oil in your shocks?!?! Dorks....
I've tried it both ways and found that it doesn't make a bit of difference. I still hit the wall at the same speed.
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[QUOTE=Jeff Brown]I am flying up for the race. If you have any questions let me know. I will start with either Rob's setup or Jason's from the IIC.

my car was good in vegas fellas give it a shot
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