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Old 12-02-2005, 03:22 AM   #4501
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hi guys first post here,

got a uk spec rdx.....was such a nice build and congrats to corally for such a great car.

the shocks where prebuilt , and apart from putting oil in what else needs to be done. do i need to adjust shock length?

secondly, where can i get the kydex large bumper as plan to do some indoor racing during the cold winter months and dont wanna batter the car.

third, i would say im better a better than average driver and race stock/19t... I a little confused on the spacing of wishbones.... the metal spacers to do toe in on rear and front... and someone explain what should go where as the rear ends up with 4 degree toe in (way too much)

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front- 1mm shim under each(4) roll center blocks, spacing out arms

rears- no shim in the front roll center blocks
1mm shim in the rear roll center blocks(giving car 1 degree toe in)

should have 0 degree rear upright/blocks

how you getting 4 degree?? sure your not running 2 degree rear block?? (it will be stamped with 2 degree) my car came with 0degrees.?!?!?!
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2 degree blocks i think a supplied with uk kit....

atm i have 1 space behind all blocks front and rear....however front seemes narrower than rear
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most run optional wide hex adapters also..just in the front standard rears.

2 degrees.. thats why.. u need standard 0 degrees also.
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never run less that 2deg rear toe so im fine with them...
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Old 12-02-2005, 08:44 AM   #4506
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never run less that 2deg rear toe so im fine with them...
Where do you live? The UK? Just not to confuse anyone, none of the kits in the US come with 2 deg rear uprights.

If you have 2 deg rear uprights then don't put any washers behind the hingepin couplers. You can put 0.5 or 1.0mm shim to add a bit of toe if you would like.

The front has you put one 1.0mm shim all the way around. I would recommend at least another 1.0mm shim to gain stability.

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UK...

ok this might make it easier:

front : Front 1 shim, rear 1 shim
rear: front 1 shim, rear 1 shim

2 degree rear hubs(uprights)
4 degree castor blocks

so should i have:

front: front 2 shims, rear 2 shims
rear: front 0 shims, rear 0-1shim for toe. ???? ????
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Where do you live? The UK? Just not to confuse anyone, none of the kits in the US come with 2 deg rear uprights.

If you have 2 deg rear uprights then don't put any washers behind the hingepin couplers. You can put 0.5 or 1.0mm shim to add a bit of toe if you would like.

The front has you put one 1.0mm shim all the way around. I would recommend at least another 1.0mm shim to gain stability.

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UK...

ok this might make it easier:

front : Front 1 shim, rear 1 shim
rear: front 1 shim, rear 1 shim

2 degree rear hubs(uprights)
4 degree castor blocks

so should i have:

front: front 2 shims, rear 2 shims
rear: front 0 shims, rear 0-1shim for toe. ???? ????
Yes if your are running 0* rear blocks...
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but what if im running the 2deg rear blocks
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but what if im running the 2deg rear blocks
Any added shims will increase the toe in.
I.E. if you add 1mm shim in the REAR REAR mounts you will then have 3* rear toe in and in my opinion toooooo much.
I run 1.0-1.5 total toe in. depends on track. But I don't see the point...but hey I am an asphalt guy...Carpet is not my thing...Closest carpet track in 6-8 hours away. Too far just to run the rug...
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[QUOTE=Mr. Shookie]Any added shims will increase the toe in.
I.E. if you add 1mm shim in the REAR REAR mounts you will then have 3* rear toe in and in my opinion toooooo much.
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understand that bit, but how many shims should i have under each bit so i can get it right from day one .....:P
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but what if im running the 2deg rear blocks
The bottom line is how much rear toe do you want? If all you want is 2 degrees at the rear, use no spacers in the rear or if you do use spacers make sure the blocks at that end of the car have washers that are the thickness. If they are the same thickness, toe will not be affected but only the width of the car will be.

There are 2 different spacers: those for 1 degree and those for 1/2 degree. You use them to get the amount of toe you want. Now, speaking specifically for the rear of the car for rear toe:
-using no spacers will yeild you 2 degrees of rear toe (qas you are runing 2 Degree rear hubs)
-using (1) 1 degree spacer on each block will STILL yeild you with 2 degrees of rear toe (For no change). Because you are adding spacer of the same thickness you are not changing the angle of the hingepin. You are only pushing that hingepin out further from the bulkhead, changing only the width of the car.
If you want to increase the toe to 2.5 degrees, use (1) 1 degree spacer on the rear blocks and use (1) 1/2 degree spacer on the front blocks. This makes the hingepin angle in towards the front of the car.
If you want to decrease the toe to 1.5 degrees use (1) 1 degree spacer on the front blocks and use (1) 1.2 degree spacer on the rear blocks. This makes the hingepin angle in towards the rear of the car.

The spacers allow you to change the toe is 1/2 degree increments.

Once you know what degree you currently have, it's easy to make the car have the amount of toe you want with the spacers.

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so from what i have been told and guessed at...

run fronts with 2 1mm shims on all
and rears with none on front and what ever i need for toe in on rear?


well ill try that and see how it goes... cheers
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no... ok if you only have 2 degree hubs in the rear... dont add more shims in the back of the rear arms, it will give you more toe in --- toooo much.
if you only want 2 degree -- no shims.. still a little much.
but to get 1 degree toe in.. add a shim to the front of rear arms...1mm.since your toe in already at 2 degrees from the hubs, shimming the front of rear arm will sweep arms backout overall and toe in will be less while using the 2 degree... just try it and check
but i think it may give you more traction...
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