R/C Tech Forums

Go Back   R/C Tech Forums > General Forums > Electric On-Road

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 07-28-2004, 03:34 AM   #31
Tech Master
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 1,870
Trader Rating: 1 (100%+)
Default

I have run stock motors in the UK for a very long time, and I have NEVER got on with ANY Trinity based stock motor, they are either very peaky or just flat, and that would be from the same batch of motors.

I have run other Epic based motors, where they have been fine, but what a lot of people have done is to buy pre-built motors from Trinity and put their own label and brush/spring combination on. Where people are using Trinity cans, they maybe using different armatures, or being wound somwhere else, or to their own specification, which would change things.

Personaly, I believe when you mass produce a motor like the Trinity, there CAN'T be the atention to detail that there needs to be for every motor to be the same, so I prefer to buy from a small volume maker.
DA_cookie_monst is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-28-2004, 04:17 AM   #32
Moderator
 
StephenSobottka's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Milwaukee, WI
Posts: 3,267
Trader Rating: 8 (100%+)
Send a message via AIM to StephenSobottka
Default

OK guys, one thing you have to remember is that trinity or epic(same owner spiel) makes the motors as a product. If another company tunes them, they are still a trinity motor. So you got a bad one, big deal? Ive blown them up on my first run too, shit happens. And when you talk about overheating, are you sure the motor wasnt hot? I have had people come off and temp gun their motors at 220 and say perfect, NOT! If you run the motor over 180 you risk blowing it up. Melting epoxy, or losing magnets, or what have you. If it happens call them and tell them it happened and get another. If there was a bad batch they will be weeded out. I just bought a reedy 19t quad mag motor that absolutely sucks. it has the handwound arm and everything, still a big fat turd compared to the Chameleon 2. I'm judging this off lap times on the same day, same packs, same tires, same car. I am consistently 2 tenths faster with the trinity motor. I have had a bad one of those as well. it is just the luck of the draw.
__________________
~~Stephen Sobottka~~
SMC Racing
StephenSobottka is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-28-2004, 04:26 AM   #33
Tech Master
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 1,870
Trader Rating: 1 (100%+)
Default

Trinity and EPIC are NOT the same company, they are separate.
DA_cookie_monst is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-28-2004, 04:41 AM   #34
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Builth Wells, Wales
Posts: 21
Default

But they are own by the same person, so although not legally the same company, they are more or less.

Ben
Ben Turner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-28-2004, 04:42 AM   #35
Moderator
 
StephenSobottka's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Milwaukee, WI
Posts: 3,267
Trader Rating: 8 (100%+)
Send a message via AIM to StephenSobottka
Default

doesnt matter, ernie has the control. Either way, its a mass produced motor, things will happen.
__________________
~~Stephen Sobottka~~
SMC Racing
StephenSobottka is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-28-2004, 08:13 AM   #36
Tech Champion
 
Nova F1 Racer's Avatar
R/C Tech Charter Subscriber
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Peoples Republic of Northern Virginia
Posts: 5,682
Trader Rating: 3 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by Trinityracinnut
OK guys, one thing you have to remember is that trinity or epic(same owner spiel) makes the motors as a product. If another company tunes them, they are still a trinity motor. So you got a bad one, big deal? Ive blown them up on my first run too, shit happens. And when you talk about overheating, are you sure the motor wasnt hot? I have had people come off and temp gun their motors at 220 and say perfect, NOT! If you run the motor over 180 you risk blowing it up. Melting epoxy, or losing magnets, or what have you. If it happens call them and tell them it happened and get another. If there was a bad batch they will be weeded out. I just bought a reedy 19t quad mag motor that absolutely sucks. it has the handwound arm and everything, still a big fat turd compared to the Chameleon 2. I'm judging this off lap times on the same day, same packs, same tires, same car. I am consistently 2 tenths faster with the trinity motor. I have had a bad one of those as well. it is just the luck of the draw.
History of trinity with me...

Stock Monster 4 pk2 8- total 12: of the 12: 3 had i magnets unglued and destroyed the motors and 1 had cracked again destroyed it.
19 turn: 10 Chameleon 2 Pro Motor : 5 bad 2 cracked and 3 magnets came loose. in 2 of these they had less than 4 runs on them... I'm running 4 electric cars between my son and me so it's not like these are sitting around for a long time between uses.
__________________
This is DICK!!! And you're NOT!
RC Tech member #11
Aussie Rules Footy, Brisbane LIONS!!
[url]http://www.pitter-pat.com/[/url] for pet care needs in Northern Virginia
Nova F1 Racer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-28-2004, 12:57 PM   #37
Moderator
 
StephenSobottka's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Milwaukee, WI
Posts: 3,267
Trader Rating: 8 (100%+)
Send a message via AIM to StephenSobottka
Default

Thats very interesting because I have smoked one green machine 3, and one cham2. Thats it.
__________________
~~Stephen Sobottka~~
SMC Racing
StephenSobottka is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-28-2004, 01:13 PM   #38
Tech Adept
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 225
Default

Nova,

While I'm not the biggest fan of Trinity I'll have to admit to have that many problems seems strange. I've been racing for 15+ years and I don't think I've had that many problems combined in that time frame. The only motor's I've seen consistently give problems are Green 3's, which is too bad because I actually like the way they run.

What type of car are running them in? i.e. off road, touring, etc.
Ozwald Bates is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-28-2004, 01:14 PM   #39
Tech Champion
 
Nova F1 Racer's Avatar
R/C Tech Charter Subscriber
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Peoples Republic of Northern Virginia
Posts: 5,682
Trader Rating: 3 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by Trinityracinnut
Thats very interesting because I have smoked one green machine 3, and one cham2. Thats it.
Well, there is one more interesting note.......
I got most if not all of these from Tower hobbies..........

hmmmmm........
__________________
This is DICK!!! And you're NOT!
RC Tech member #11
Aussie Rules Footy, Brisbane LIONS!!
[url]http://www.pitter-pat.com/[/url] for pet care needs in Northern Virginia
Nova F1 Racer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-28-2004, 01:15 PM   #40
Tech Champion
 
Nova F1 Racer's Avatar
R/C Tech Charter Subscriber
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Peoples Republic of Northern Virginia
Posts: 5,682
Trader Rating: 3 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by Ozwald Bates
Nova,

While I'm not the biggest fan of Trinity I'll have to admit to have that many problems seems strange. I've been racing for 15+ years and I don't think I've had that many problems combined in that time frame. The only motor's I've seen consistently give problems are Green 3's, which is too bad because I actually like the way they run.

What type of car are running them in? i.e. off road, touring, etc.
On road Tamiya F201
__________________
This is DICK!!! And you're NOT!
RC Tech member #11
Aussie Rules Footy, Brisbane LIONS!!
[url]http://www.pitter-pat.com/[/url] for pet care needs in Northern Virginia
Nova F1 Racer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-28-2004, 01:18 PM   #41
Tech Adept
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 225
Default

Hmm,

I don't know why you would be having such bad luck with them. Maybe try checking them with a temp gun next time you race and see just how hot they're getting.
Ozwald Bates is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-28-2004, 01:20 PM   #42
Tech Elite
 
fatdoggy's Avatar
R/C Tech Charter Subscriber
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: MD USA
Posts: 3,642
Default

Nova F1 Racer - Dam your hard on motors.
fatdoggy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-28-2004, 01:23 PM   #43
Tech Master
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: San Jose California
Posts: 1,251
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by DA_cookie_monst
Trinity and EPIC are NOT the same company, they are separate.
Thank you....Now I have an exuse for bying more Epic stuff

Epic turns a better product than Trinity. I dunno why though
The Black Kat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-28-2004, 02:11 PM   #44
Tech Champion
 
Nova F1 Racer's Avatar
R/C Tech Charter Subscriber
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Peoples Republic of Northern Virginia
Posts: 5,682
Trader Rating: 3 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by Ozwald Bates
Hmm,

I don't know why you would be having such bad luck with them. Maybe try checking them with a temp gun next time you race and see just how hot they're getting.
I have and the range has been 140 to a high of 190....
Mostly in the 150-160 range after a long run....
__________________
This is DICK!!! And you're NOT!
RC Tech member #11
Aussie Rules Footy, Brisbane LIONS!!
[url]http://www.pitter-pat.com/[/url] for pet care needs in Northern Virginia
Nova F1 Racer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-28-2004, 02:12 PM   #45
Tech Champion
 
Nova F1 Racer's Avatar
R/C Tech Charter Subscriber
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Peoples Republic of Northern Virginia
Posts: 5,682
Trader Rating: 3 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by fatdoggy
Nova F1 Racer - Dam your hard on motors.
Dam right.....

I did have a Orion 11 turn meltdown once...... That was ugly!!!!
__________________
This is DICK!!! And you're NOT!
RC Tech member #11
Aussie Rules Footy, Brisbane LIONS!!
[url]http://www.pitter-pat.com/[/url] for pet care needs in Northern Virginia
Nova F1 Racer is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
WTB:Trinity XX4 Aluminum pieces Dasupacat1 R/C Items: Wanted to Buy 0 06-12-2007 07:27 AM
Trinity Co27 Monster Stock Pro Motors & Reedy Neo 2* BL Motors For Sale Leodis R/C Items: For Sale/Trade 17 05-11-2007 06:03 PM
Reedy MVP - Trinity P2K/P2K2 - Trinity Green Machine Stock Motors S.Heath R/C Items: For Sale/Trade 8 02-14-2007 01:27 PM
Does Trinity give a crap about Customers? JRSXrookie Electric Off-Road 39 08-15-2006 09:51 PM
Does Trinity give a crap about Customers? JRSXrookie Onroad Nitro Engine Zone 9 08-11-2006 06:24 PM



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -7. It is currently 10:50 AM.


Powered By: vBulletin v3.9.2.1
Privacy Policy | Terms of Use | Advertise Content © 2001-2011 RCTech.net