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Old 07-30-2004, 01:23 AM   #121
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Too bad she is like 16.....she can't even go to an R rated movie with him

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FYI... He did not start using that plate thingy until the A1 and A2 mains. His car wasn’t any faster in the mains then in qualifying. I personally think that the plate is just a placebo. Everyone listen to Greg and Oscar they are the only ones analyzing other reasons why his car had such good acceleration.

Hara’s car would pull 3 car lengths on Barry every time he would get on the straightaway. Hara’s car was using an aluminum hollow spool, delrin diff, light weight shaft and Ti screws holding on the spur and center shaft cups. His car also had the freest drive train I have ever felt. Barry’s car was using a steel spool, steel diff and his drive-train wasn’t very free. This is a HUGE difference.

It also helps when your motor/battery sponsor is one of the most technologically advanced in the industry.
I got to agree with you on one thing : hara's drivetrain is the freeest I've ever seen, and more important, it does not makes any noise at all, unlike any other shaft driven car (including other's pro4, i only saw that on his car). And of course lightweight parts in the drivetrain can only help with acceleration and top speed.
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Old 07-30-2004, 04:48 AM   #123
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I got to agree with you on one thing : hara's drivetrain is the freeest I've ever seen, and more important, it does not makes any noise at all, unlike any other shaft driven car (including other's pro4, i only saw that on his car). And of course lightweight parts in the drivetrain can only help with acceleration and top speed.
I agree with you guys too. That plate or something in my opinion is a hoax and a performance enhancer at all I think. Wouldn't wanna to spend money to try one too.

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Old 07-30-2004, 08:58 AM   #124
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Guys Hara is having his fifteen minutes, Baker had it, as masami, joel jhonson, and tony niesenger. One person cant be fast forever. I do agree that at this point Hara is by far the best out there. One component doesnt make the guy faster but its the gathering of everything into one package lead by his talents behind the wheel. It may be that plate isnt the next best thing since bread, but in life you learn that you dont knock thing down because it may or may not work. If you dont try you wont know.
We have all at one time or another spent 30 bucks on something, stupid or not. In this industry that is nothing for a piece of mind if that is what it is. Someone is going to bash me for this but I dont care. Its something to try if it doesnt work! screw it will get tossed into the tried and done heap of crap thats been tested!
Worth a try!
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Old 07-30-2004, 11:28 AM   #125
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speedxl- Good points. It's no different than an offraod driver that can't find a tire that works at a certain track, glues up a set of $26 tires, then they don't hook up and the tires are toast. Money wasted to no benefit but you never know until you tried them. It won't be the first $30 people waste (not saying it will be) in R/C and it won't be the last if it turns out to be not everything it's cracked up to be.
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Old 07-30-2004, 11:34 AM   #126
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Yep, compared to the amount of cash a lot of us drop on this hobby, $30 is insignificant. It's not like the plate will hurt anything either; it just might not do what you hope. But you won't know until you try it. (and then post your results on this thread so we'll know too! )
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Old 07-30-2004, 01:50 PM   #127
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I'll give you a black plate for $30....some people NEED $30 cause we need to eat lunch or can't afford race fees and crap like that....
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Old 07-30-2004, 01:56 PM   #128
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I was referring to speedxl and those in the hobby that have money to throw at things like that. If you want it and can afford it, then buy it. If you don't want it and/or can't afford it, don't. Simple, yet effective rule to follow.
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Old 07-30-2004, 02:26 PM   #129
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EDIT: Nevermind....misread your post there.

How missing one word can effect what someone says...LOL

I think thats easier for you to say cause your rich.
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Old 07-30-2004, 02:28 PM   #130
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I ordered two plates. I will let you know what I think when they get here.
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Old 07-30-2004, 02:43 PM   #131
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Old 07-30-2004, 03:15 PM   #132
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Guys it isnt about spending $30.00.
Being fast is trying, and if you dont you will loose! not because the black plate but at
the fact you didnt test.
I dont like being the one asking! What do you think?. Guys that are always fast are the one that think out of the box and try things. to be fast you need discipline, world champions dont know it all they try things no matter how stupid. If it earns you 1 tenth per lap faster at the end of the race it could mean an extra lap.
People that are succesful are because they tried!
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Guys it isnt about spending $30.00.
Being fast is trying, and if you dont you will loose! not because the black plate but at
the fact you didnt test.
I dont like being the one asking! What do you think?. Guys that are always fast are the one that think out of the box and try things. to be fast you need discipline, world champions dont know it all they try things no matter how stupid. If it earns you 1 tenth per lap faster at the end of the race it could mean an extra lap.
People that are succesful are because they tried!
Yeah you try it first and tell us wot you think....since you don't like to be the one asking "wot do you think?"....

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Old 07-30-2004, 09:56 PM   #134
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guys here is a reply from GP batteries!
Dear Hector,

I noticed that you guys had a thread on R/C Tech discussing Hara's
"charging plate."

As a battery manufacturer, we are not certain if this "charging plate" you
are looking for, does enhance the battery/ car performance as you might
expect. Nevertheless, such information also sounds very interesting to us
too.

For your reference, attached pls find files of an article in a Japanese R/C
magazine (Issue of Sept 03), and also the translation below. I hope that
would help answering your question.

If you have any finding/ result after testing this "charging plate," I
would appreciate if you could share with me.

Thank you for your support for racing with GP batteries!

Best regards,
Josephine

(See attached file: 0009.jpg)(See attached file: 0010.jpg)

Translation for your reference
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Page 128.
(Title)
What kind of effect dose have "Zapped Sheet".
Battery voltage would increase once covered under Battery.

(Description)
As it was introduced on the separate volume of "RC World" Magazine,
"Zapped Sheet" had big reaction from market.
It is to be able to get more high voltage once sheet is laid under battery.
The theory was not disclosed due to company confidential.
Sheet will activate the inside of battery during charging.
Activation will be affect to electro-magnetic wave generated at negative
electrode
And consequently the battery charging will be more smooth than without
"Zapped Sheet".
Actual effect was 2 to 3 % increased charging voltage.

When I used at the RC controlled car, the feeling of throttle response was
increased.
At this moment, it is not announced when will be put on the market and how
much is
the price for "Zapped Sheet".

It will have sensation once released to the market.

Page 129.
(Title)
Charging efficiency will be increased once "Special Sheet" is adhered to
battery.

(Description)
There are so many case to apply rechargeable battery for not only RC but
also
various application.
If "Special Coating Sheet" is applied to Li-ion battery of cellular phone,
capacity would be increased and it will prevent batteries becoming to
worse.
It is coated by material that arrange the ion movement in the battery.
I tried to use the "Sheet" with attached on GP Battery, clear difference
between with and without sheet was not observed during running the RC on
actual road.
However it will be effective on the case of low current application.
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Question I was wondering if would help find the answer to a
n / question I have. I am sur your engineers through
Commen testing and years of schooling might know of what I am
looking for if not please direct me where I can get
an answer. I race model cars with your gp3300
batteries and am aware that batteries when charge
produce a electrical filed there is a stone or
magnete that alters this I would like to know for
enhancing performance of my car. Something like this
was spotted being used by a professional driver.
other people were whitness to this. could you direct
to where I can get this or what the material might
be! Please help. or refer me to the correct source!
Thank you Hector Garcia. R/C racer
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Old 07-30-2004, 10:00 PM   #135
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