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Old 11-30-2010, 12:26 AM   #61
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It is funny reading this thread. Locally I don't use my "voodooed" silvercans for sedan class. I can race this class at many tracks year round. The latest track I goto runs indoor on a small gym floor which is a laminate. Last race I was turning laps 3-4 1/10ths faster than the regulars that have been there for years.

That motor was given to me at a race few months back, box stock, using a militant lock down on motors. Meaning the motor went in car before the race and out after the race only staying in tech all weekend. The motor since has stayed in my car for 5 races, never cleaned, lightly oiled and never over geared. Why has it stayed in my car, in part laziness the other part lack of time to properly clean my motors.

Why don't I voodoo the locals, because I want them work on their setup rather than their motors. It is very rare if ever at all a local would show up with a reddot type motor. The two different winter tracks I goto have over 10 guys racing silvercans. Guys know if I lap them, it is not the motor but more so the setup, which in reality they can attain. I will answer questions and help guys to get their setups dialed. In many cases they will be pressuring me in the races, where before were being lapped. In the long run it only makes me a better driver.

I can identify with Grandpa. Have spent many years, time, dollars on these motors and I know my past numbers of them are over 50. If you want the silvercan class to stay around, just tell guys run them out of the box and don't over gear them. If you don't then buy a $50 motor and lap them with something they don't want to afford, possibly killing the class. When silver cans were ran in sedan (GT3) for TCS it was one of the biggest classes attracting all walks of life with a variety of silvercans.

I enjoy silvercan motors more than Brushless, might sound weird but it is true.
For guys like RobK, research has found that "normal" RPM seems to work best for F1.

As far as secrets go. A friend from years ago once told me, you need to work more on your car setup and less on extracting secret information from me. Eventually I learned his secrets after I did my own work.
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Old 11-30-2010, 06:16 PM   #62
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For guys like RobK, research has found that "normal" RPM seems to work best for F1.
I'm totally cool with the 13500 rule, but this year it's unlimited

Can you hear the turbodyno going off out there in the western burbs??
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my fantom dyno is on ebay. that can help you end ur frustration with solid information on where your are and after you hook up 1 of doc's and compare the graphs......just how far you have to go.

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Can you hear the turbodyno going off out there in the western burbs??
No? Unless you are the proud owner of one?
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I do just a few things to prepare my motor for my mini.
I still run with the first motor and it still runs good.

connect the motor to an other motor and let the motor were you not race witch run ad 3v in the otherdirection so the motor that you want to have ready for the race will run the right way. I let it run for a long time till the brushes contact completely tge connector.
than i clean the brushes and the connector and the motor is ready.
after each race i clean the connector and the brushes. this is allowed.
zaped motors are iligal and disqualified.
just as timed motors an motors that were open.

don,t spend monny on these motors. race for the fun with it.
as you want to go faster, get a faster motor. Go brushless.
because of some cheaters we almost switched to brushless for the mini, but because of good motor checking we got the drivers so far that the speed is all the same again.

because of the cheating i started years ago to switch to the mod class.
motors werent that fast in those time as they are now but fast enough to make cheating useless because the most must come from the driver.
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The art of Science not cheating!!

Google is my friend

Motor Break-in -

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_5628228/tm.htm

Motor info - below



Lipos -

http://www.tmenet.com/pdf/LithiumBatterySecrets.doc.pdf


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