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Old 11-01-2010, 10:50 AM   #1
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I am new to on-road and the club I will be running at this winter season races on a rubberized gym floor at a school. I was there last week but a receiver issue did not allow me to test out the Jaco Blues rubber tires I bought. I assumed rubber would be the way to go as the track surface is rubberized but everyone running slicks had zero traction. It's a fun/beginner race club on a new track so as of yet there are no classes or tire restrictions except for no traction compounds. The only guy that seemed to have any traction was running foams but everything I have read indicates that rubber is better for low traction surfaces?? It was very dusty at the last meet which was the main issue I believe, not sure how well or even if they swept before the meet??
I am going to order some foams to try next week but not really sure what is good for low traction and for dusty tracks??. Looking to get Jaco Prisms as my LHS can get them easily. Do you generally use a harder compound for the front tires when running foams?? Advice would be greatly appreciated as I am a complete noob to Touring Cars and low on $$$ to experiment with different tires. Thanks
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I say foam. jaco prism pink on the front and magenta or double pink on the rear. And its not that hard to clean the track before a meeting. JMO..
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Be interesting to see how silicone cap tires would work. Take foam tires, coat the surface with GE silicone RTV and let it cure. Now you have silicone cap tires. Used to be the most awesome tires for running indoor clay dirt oval, many years ago. Worked so good, ROAR outlawed them. Best part was they never wore out. Fairly easy to make a set to test, worth a try.
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Thanks for the input
Silicone capped tires sounds interesting. Might have to give that a try sometime. Running on this track is going to take a lot of throttle control so I think I will have to ditch my 6.5 motor for a 17.5. Good thing I have some offroad experience which will help with the inevitable drifting through corners. Always up for a new challenge Going to show up early next week and volunteer for some janitorial duties to sweep away that evil dust.
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Mopping would be better I think with warm/hot water. Then dry with a leaf blower or towel... or a flame thrower warm that rubberized surface up.

Do they have a timing system?
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They are using the iLap system.
It would be great to have it cleaned properly but not sure if there would be enough time to mop and dry plus get all the pvc barriers put in place, run all the extension cords etc. I think a good sweeping is about all there is time for. It should be a good surface to run on if the dust problem can be resolved which should be easy with 30 people to help out.
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They are using the iLap system.
It would be great to have it cleaned properly but not sure if there would be enough time to mop and dry plus get all the pvc barriers put in place, run all the extension cords etc. I think a good sweeping is about all there is time for. It should be a good surface to run on if the dust problem can be resolved which should be easy with 30 people to help out.
that looks mighty confusing

would the gym have issues with the groove laid down?
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It does look a bit confusing from that angle with all the lines on the gym floor but the drivers stand is at the top of the bleachers so you have good visibility. As for a driving line developing, not so sure. It's very hard to scuff that floor.
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Schumacher yellow mini pins is what you really want, rubbers and foam can't cut through the dust like a spike can.

They come in 21mm and 25mm width's. The narrow's are the faster tire but depending on the surface they will last a 1 to ? race meetings. The wide's aren't as nimble on the track but you can scrub off alot more speed on corner entry and last alot longer and are about 1 lap slower overall than the narrows.

When my club used to race on slippy floor it was 2.5 meetings before the narrows became uncompetitive and 7 weeks for the wides.
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Touring car pin tires, that's cool. Don't think the organizers will allow any sort of spike tires but if they do I will give them a try. Thanks
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