Go Back  R/C Tech Forums > General Forums > Electric On-Road
17.5T Motor - Which is better? >

17.5T Motor - Which is better?

17.5T Motor - Which is better?

Old 10-24-2010, 05:54 PM
  #1  
Tech Addict
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 729
Default 17.5T Motor - Which is better?

OK, the question I have is which 17.5T motor is better out of the following:

1-Novak SS Pro
2-Team Epic Duo 2
3-Team Epic Duo 3
4-Novak 3617 Ballistic Spec

It will be powered by a Hobby Wing Xtreme Stock Brushless ESC, so what would be a better choice? Thanks guys (and girls if you lurk round here )
DJ_Shakespear is offline  
Old 10-24-2010, 05:57 PM
  #2  
Tech Champion
iTrader: (14)
 
skypilot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 9,533
Trader Rating: 14 (100%+)
Default

the absolute hands down best motor is the one that I chose to use at that moment, same for esc, chassis, tires, body, servo, and everything else I have.

there is NO best anything. its all in what you "think" is best and what works for you.
skypilot is offline  
Old 10-24-2010, 06:01 PM
  #3  
Tech Addict
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 729
Default

Originally Posted by skypilot View Post
the absolute hands down best motor is the one that I chose to use at that moment, same for esc, chassis, tires, body, servo, and everything else I have.

there is NO best anything. its all in what you "think" is best and what works for you.
Hahaha I like your thinking, so far I like the Epic Duo 3, and 1-3 are all the same price, #4 being a little more expensive, but not by much.
DJ_Shakespear is offline  
Old 10-24-2010, 09:20 PM
  #4  
Tech Elite
iTrader: (29)
 
R3VoLuTiOn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Vancouver, Canada
Posts: 2,662
Trader Rating: 29 (100%+)
Default

I'm enjoying my ballistic 17.5 right now. It seems to pull a bit on the guys that run speed passion / orca, but that could be gearing too.

I like the sensor port on the side, seems like extra security.
R3VoLuTiOn is offline  
Old 10-24-2010, 09:42 PM
  #5  
Tech Addict
iTrader: (10)
 
RDOUBLEDAY's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 654
Trader Rating: 10 (100%+)
Default

I like the Duo Series I have a Duo1 13.5 Duo 2 17.5 And i have a duo3 on the way.
RDOUBLEDAY is offline  
Old 10-24-2010, 11:37 PM
  #6  
Tech Master
 
PDX-Spike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: 42
Posts: 1,440
Default

Today, I removed a 13.5 Duo 2 from my 1/12th car and substituted it for a 13.5 Novak Ballistic. Got an immediate 1.5 seconds reduction in lap times.
PDX-Spike is offline  
Old 10-25-2010, 03:05 AM
  #7  
Tech Addict
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 729
Default

Originally Posted by PDX-Spike View Post
Today, I removed a 13.5 Duo 2 from my 1/12th car and substituted it for a 13.5 Novak Ballistic. Got an immediate 1.5 seconds reduction in lap times.
Well then out goes the Duo 2
So far Duo 3 has the lead, then the Ballistic.

Any opinions on the two?
DJ_Shakespear is offline  
Old 10-25-2010, 09:21 AM
  #8  
Tech Elite
iTrader: (15)
 
M-Technic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Palm Beach, FL
Posts: 2,562
Trader Rating: 15 (100%+)
Default

Duo/Duo2/Duo3 can't be beat.
M-Technic is offline  
Old 10-25-2010, 10:38 AM
  #9  
Regional Moderator
 
CarbonJoe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 2,664
Default

Originally Posted by PDX-Spike View Post
Today, I removed a 13.5 Duo 2 from my 1/12th car and substituted it for a 13.5 Novak Ballistic. Got an immediate 1.5 seconds reduction in lap times.
Are you comparing apples to apples? The Novak motors come from the factory set to 30 degrees timing on the motor. Aren't the Duo2 motors around 24 degrees timing when the endbell is set to the indicated 0 degree mark? Would a gearing or motor timing change have resulted in the same lap times? If your lap times changed that much, you probably weren't setup correctly for that motor's "sweet spot".
CarbonJoe is offline  
Old 10-25-2010, 11:17 AM
  #10  
Company Representative
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: SoCal
Posts: 2,891
Default

After you have run a motor (any mfgs' motor) for a while, you may have weakened your rotor magnet. Using dynamic timing escs can demagnetize your motor because of overheating. Installing a brand new motor (new rotor) should should make your car run better; but, replacing the rotor in your existing motor will probably make your "old" motor run better, too...
NovakTwo is offline  
Old 10-25-2010, 11:31 AM
  #11  
Tech Master
 
PDX-Spike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: 42
Posts: 1,440
Default

Originally Posted by NovakTwo View Post
After you have run a motor (any mfgs' motor) for a while, you may have weakened your rotor magnet. Using dynamic timing escs can demagnetize your motor because of overheating. Installing a brand new motor (new rotor) should should make your car run better; but, replacing the rotor in your existing motor will probably make your "old" motor run better, too...
That's good to know. Is there anything else in regard to the motor that deteriorates over time?
PDX-Spike is offline  
Old 10-25-2010, 11:38 AM
  #12  
Company Representative
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: SoCal
Posts: 2,891
Default

Originally Posted by PDX-Spike View Post
That's good to know. Is there anything else in regard to the motor that deteriorates over time?
Not sure that motor components "deteriorate", but chronic overheating can damage or even burn up your stator, magnet and even the timing assembly.

BL motors should be maintained and bearings checked regularly:

Video: How to Clean Your BL Motor
NovakTwo is offline  
Old 10-25-2010, 09:24 PM
  #13  
Tech Addict
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 729
Default

Well then, the Epic D3 takes the cake!! Thanks guys!
DJ_Shakespear is offline  
Old 10-25-2010, 10:05 PM
  #14  
Tech Champion
iTrader: (14)
 
skypilot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 9,533
Trader Rating: 14 (100%+)
Default

Originally Posted by M-Technic View Post
Duo/Duo2/Duo3 can't be beat.
I hear that a lot, but I beat them all the time with my speedpassion and now my novak. like I said.....
skypilot is offline  
Old 10-25-2010, 11:00 PM
  #15  
Tech Regular
iTrader: (7)
 
xray09ACT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 280
Trader Rating: 7 (100%+)
Default

Originally Posted by skypilot View Post
the absolute hands down best motor is the one that I chose to use at that moment, same for esc, chassis, tires, body, servo, and everything else I have.

there is NO best anything. its all in what you "think" is best and what works for you.
+1
xray09ACT is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell My Personal Information -

Copyright 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.