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Old 11-12-2001, 05:28 PM   #106
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you can also get the ta04r. it has a lot of hopups that even the ta04 pro doesn't have.

but yes, the 414m is very good also and i may consider getting it if it weren't so expensive.

plus, with the tb evo 1/2 its tough to change the motor.
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Old 11-12-2001, 06:26 PM   #107
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the 414 series are not legal for TCS racing, if you don't mind the saddle packs the TA04 is a llittle better than the Evo, don't know about the Evo II yet. Get the TA04R then the only other hop up you'll need is the saddle pack chassis
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Old 11-12-2001, 08:19 PM   #108
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I would pick the TA04R.
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Old 11-12-2001, 09:15 PM   #109
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yeah. of all the 04 cars -- ta04, ta04 pro, ta04s, ta04r -- the r series would give you more bang for your money. check out the 04r thread.

my preferences lean more on shaft drives...
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Thanks for the help. the reason i was wondering is this guy is selling one used and I dont know if i should get it or not. Is the tb-evolution TCS legal?
thanks again
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fangio: i got this off the tamiya america site. the tb evo is eligible. at least in the us. i think i saw in the euro-cup that it was not allowed because of its "limited edition" status:

Super Touring GT1

1. All Tamiya TA, TB and TL series sedan chassis’ (TA01, TA02, TA03, TA04, TL01, TB0, TB Evolution, FF01, FF02)).
2. Tamiya Hop-Ups allowed. Chassis lightening allowed.
3. Ball bearing modified motor.
4. Tamiya rubber tires only, no foam tires.

Touring GT2
1. All Tamiya TA, TB and TL series sedan chassis’ (TA01, TA02, TA03, TA04, TL01, FF01, FF02.).
2. Tub Chassis only (no double deck chassis).
3. Tamiya Hop-Ups allowed. No lightening allowed.
4. 24-degree stock motor or kit type closed-endbell, silver can motor only.
5. Tamiya rubber tires only, no foam tires.
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Old 11-13-2001, 09:23 PM   #112
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it looks like tamiya reworked the aluminum motor mount to make it easier to take out and install the motor...

http://202.217.208.133/japan/product.../tb_evo2_5.jpg
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Old 11-13-2001, 09:56 PM   #113
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spider: Hmm.. looks different but I don't see how that will help with the lower motor screw since it's so embedded in the suspension.
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Old 11-13-2001, 11:57 PM   #114
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hmmmm... true. one of the advantages that i can see is that you do not have to take out the pinion gear.

my method in taking out the motor is to loosen the screws using the supplied hex driver. i then slide the motor outward near the rear left tire. i normally take out that tire first. then i use a 2.5 mm ball hex driver to take out the screws.

the ball hex driver makes my life a little easier.
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Old 11-14-2001, 05:01 PM   #115
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opinions....

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I just would like to know how does the TB-01 Evo compare with the TC-3 (FT), both are shaft drive, hopped-up and their layout are similar, the Tamiya car seems much nicer quality. Anyone had them racing on track? Any ideas?

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i do not have a tc3 but from what i see, the tc3 seems to be the choice of racers. maybe because its more affordable than the tb evo. because of this, more people can afford to own one and race them.

the tb evo is a limited production car so the price is a little high. quality is up there though.

but ultimately it comes down to where your heart belongs. look at the two kits and pick the one which makes your heart go "thump thump thump".

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Default thump thump thump....

The TB Evo makes me just that...... and unfortunately the TC-3 looks like recycled plastic, I know it is really tough stuff!!! But just good looks dont make a car fast.... I would go for the TB Evo if is competitive against the norm....TC-3 RS4 Pro3, Losi etc.... at the same time I want something a bit different, hence the TBEvo.....
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i've notice that not many people race the evo. in some of the local races here they have raced the evo with good results. motor maintenace is a little tough because its hard to take the motor out or install a motor. and if you want to change the spur, you'd have to take out the rear diferential assembly.

but i have considred this and i'm still happy with the evo.

my advise is to wait for the tb evolution II to get to your area. it looks like its better than the first tb evo. they say it'll come out by december.
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I would say "Go for the car that doesn't break easily and if it does, you can get parts immediately from your LHS and not waiting a couple of days of the mail man."

The TB Evo is a pain to change the motor, pinion and spur. The TC3 can be quite fragile due to the arms. (but you can get BRP's bumper, nerf wings etc). These 2 cars are unique for the shaft driven transmission. But do not that it's a little louder than belt cars. (obviously, right?!)

TA04R is a good buy and I would have bought it if not for buying the evo earlier. Belt drive, quiet, and as fast as anyone else.

Choice is yours!
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Old 11-16-2001, 07:47 PM   #120
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Default tb evo ball diff

i love my tb evo but i would like to put a ball diff up front to make driving it a bit easier....is the rear ball diff the same as a tg10 ball diff? which ball diff do i get? thanks
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