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Old 03-03-2011, 02:35 PM   #16
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If the end bell timing sticker were to fall off a ballistic, how do you reset/set the timing?
Because we apply the sticker after we set the timing, you cannot re-attach the sticker at the same exact point. If it is necessary to return your motor to the factory timing, you would need to return it.
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i have one of theese 17.5 for sale 50 dollars pm if intrested
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if I want to change to the 13mm rotor in the ss motor do I have to change to a bigger endbell bearing or can i use the same one thanks in andvance
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Old 03-03-2011, 04:00 PM   #19
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Quin, No, same endbell. The magnet itself is slightly larger, but all the bearing surfaces are the same.

So you know, governing bodies don't allow 13mm rotors in the controlled classes.
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oh ok didn't know about it not being allowed but thanks again
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What is the recommended temperature window to the Ballistic - the specs stipulate a recommended operating temperature of 70C (160F) but on the Novak site it states that the operating system cannot exceed this temperature. So I my question is what is the highest temperature the motor cannot/should not exceed?
You are right.... the manuals say nothing higher than 160F

I have run Novak motors numerous times from 170 to 200F with no issues. I am sure they will not recommend this, but honestly Novaks do hold up to higher temps.

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the Epoxy stators are much more resistant to heat(i have been testing them for about 2 mths with great results. 160 is still a high limit due to loss of mag strength in the rotor.
Interesting..... I need to call Charlie about these.
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they also seem to handle all the timing us onroad guys throw at it!! Im not much up on the tech talk as to why, just know ontrack performance is improved all the way around and seem to run up to 10 deg or so cooler with same settings
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Hey All,

Dead thread but here goes,

What timing do these motors like? I have a 17.5 and will be running blinky in a TC. I have not really run blinky before, do I set the timing and gear to that or set the gearing then play with the timing?

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Hey All,

Dead thread but here goes,

What timing do these motors like? I have a 17.5 and will be running blinky in a TC. I have not really run blinky before, do I set the timing and gear to that or set the gearing then play with the timing?

Any suggestions welcomed,
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Timing at right about 40* and a fdr of 4.0 works best for my track. You may have to gear up or down depending on the size of your track, but the 40* seems to be the most efficient setting of power and torque.
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Hey All,

Dead thread but here goes,

What timing do these motors like? I have a 17.5 and will be running blinky in a TC. I have not really run blinky before, do I set the timing and gear to that or set the gearing then play with the timing?

Any suggestions welcomed,
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From what I read recently this will depend on your speed control. I've read people running bewteen 4.1-4.5, but you may notice Novak suggests you gear at 3.5. Some people have burned their motor up gearing at 3.5, I do not beleive those people were using a GTB or another Novak speed control. I used a GTB this past weekend with a 17.5, motor timing all the way up, started gearing at 4.0 and ended up at 3.6. Temps were around 130. Car was not the fastest on the track, even though i was able to win the main. The faster folks were using Tekin Rs, SpeedPassion V2 and the new reventon, but there was old hacker motor keeping up as well. Next time I'm out I'm going to try a little less timing and maybe gear up a little more.

Especially if you are not using a Novak ESC, I would start at 4.2 and gear up from there. Better safe than sorry..
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The ballistic motors will heed their best performance way before getting hot to the touch. I leave my 17.5t at N timing with 3.65FDR in blinky class, and I can leave my hand on the motor forever after a 6minute qualifier without losing any punch or speed anywhere. Instead of playing with timing, I gear my car properly and crank my radio expo fwd to 40+%, and throttle acceleration to 50%......
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The ballistic motors will heed their best performance way before getting hot to the touch. I leave my 17.5t at N timing with 3.65FDR in blinky class, and I can leave my hand on the motor forever after a 6minute qualifier without losing any punch or speed anywhere. Instead of playing with timing, I gear my car properly and crank my radio expo fwd to 40+%, and throttle acceleration to 50%......
Sorry for silly questions.. what is N timing?
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Sorry for silly questions.. what is N timing?
Older motors did not have all the timing marks on the end bell but N is 30*.
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