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Old 08-13-2004, 05:23 PM   #31
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How is that Orion Element? I just picked-up a Team Orion Core to run in the stock class. Of coarse I'll do some work to it though
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Old 08-16-2004, 10:45 AM   #32
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Default Peak Dynasty V2

ive just got a peak dyansaty v2 and was wndering if any of you guys have any thoghts on setup?
i was guessing the sprint brushes and meduim-hard springs? but will this offer much more of preformance for the extra maintenance?

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Old 08-16-2004, 11:30 AM   #33
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Team Orion just released an adaption kit for their V2 endbells...

RCXotic.com - V2 Endbell Adaption Kit
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Old 08-16-2004, 12:36 PM   #34
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NRCTC3... the orion element or Top based 19 turn motor from Redline is great. It's probably the fastes motor on our track so far.

Here is the review I posted on another thread last week.

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Redline Motors 19 turn (Orion Element based) motor Review....

I received this motor about a week ago. It arrived quickly and well packaged. Upon inspection it looked very clean and well prepared. Brushes were properly seated and the arm was shimmed perfectly. The brush hoods were sized perfectly to the bushes allowing for smooth movement but very little side to side slop inside the brush hood. E.J. does a very good job perparing his motors. My only (very small) nit was that no DYNO numbers were included.

The initial test of the Redline 19t motor didn't go as well as expected (but read on to find out why). I had the local hot shoe run his current Orion Element (the RedLine 19t motor is based of the Orion Element) prior to trying the RedLine motor. He has been running this motor for several weeks and it is the fastest motor that we have seen on our track to date. However, it was not a fast motor from the start. He has been using it for a while and the comm. was getting dangerously small by the time it started to get as fast as it is. The comm. size on test day was just under .268 (one cut smaller but wasn't measured after the cut). The comm. on his Orion Element motor disintegrated later that day.

We started the test with the tried and true (but aging) Element motor. As before, the motor was fast and turned some of the fastest laps ever on the current layout. Then we switched out to the 19t RedLine motor and used the same gearing (128 spur, 33 pinion, 2.31" tires) in his Losi XXX-s. That is about a 7.1 FDR (Final Drive Ratio). Worth noting is that E.J. from RedLine suggested a FDR of 5.8-6.1 (or even 5.7)... HINT-HINT. After the test run of the new RedLine motor the tester had this to say: "It seemed a bit slow on the straightaway and just seemed a bit flat in the infield". His times were slightly slower with the Redline motor (maybe .25 seconds). That ended the first test. The motor came out of the 5 minute test run warm but not hot... maybe 130F (just a guess).

The following Wednesday I ran the car in my TC3 and geared it 39/93 with 54.5mm tires (getting pretty thin). On the TC3 that comes out to a FDR of 5.9. I ran the motor and felt as thought it had more punch and straightaway speed than my Reedy Quadmag 19t motors geared the same way. The motor came out of the 5 minute run reasonably hot (Or I'd say just about right) but I hit quite a few boards and wasn't very smooth (can you say too fast) so I probably heated it up more than I would on a clean run. No comm. color changes or brush burning. It was obvious that this motor wanted a whole lot more gear than a 7.1 FDR to show it's true colors.

In the Main I had a little solder issue and didn't finish the race (oops!) and only got about 3 minutes of the race in. After the race I let the previous tester, the track director and local hot shoe, test the motor in my car with gearing closer to what E.J. suggested and a battery that definitely wasn't at it's peak voltage anymore. His response was "Wow... that's fast". He seemed to think that, when geared the way it was supposed to be geared, the RedLine motor was faster than his (now deceased) Orion Element. I also noticed that the Redline was still maxing out about 1/2 way down the main straightaway. So I think there is room for an even higher, 5.8 or 5.7 FDR, gearing with this motor and tires as small as I am currently using. In the main, before my unfortunate desoldering incident, I ran a 12.22 best lap. That is about .3 seconds from that fastest lap on this track. I'm not quite as good a driver as the original tester so there was definitely room for improvement on my lap times. I watched the original tester running laps with my TC3 after the race and he was definitely dipping into the 11 second range. I would not be surprised if he set a new lap record but we did not have the computer running. He was runnign better lines and maintaining his speed better than I do.

In my opinion I'd have to say the RedLine 19t motor is the fastest 19t motor to hit our track so far. It is definately the fastest motor I have run in my touring car. I have run Trinity Chameleon 2 motors and Reedy Quad Magnet motors and the Redline motor beats them hands down. With room for a taller gear and the possibility for a speed increase as the comm. gets smaller, this is going to be a very competitive line of motors at our track. I would recommend the RedLine 19t motor to anyone wanting a competitive edge in the 19t class. It's a great motor and E.J. has been very responsive and helpful when I have had questions about his motors or just motors in general.
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Contact E.J.Evans at [email protected] for questions about Redline motors. He hasn't finished his website yet but he is working on it.
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Yeah, once I get some money, I really want to try out the V2 adaption kit on some stock and 19t motors. If anyone here has already done this...post your thoughts please!

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I tried it this past weekend and I really think it wasn't as fast as our C2/Yok based 19t motors. I didn't really get a chance to play with it much though so I might have been off on timing or something. We are now working with the new Atlas based spec 19t motors. I'll be trying them out in the next couple of weeks but so far the numbers are looking pretty good. Plus the can is blue, can't beat that
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What about the Epic 19,what are you guys gearing that motor at..F.D.R.
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Around a final drive of 6.16 on my losi. This is on about a 150x60 track.
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Cool,Thanks.I have been running a C2 and Reedys quad,I thought I would try the Epic outlaw and was a bit unsure on the gearing.
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Oh sorry, I was talking about the C2 type can. I would think the Epic one would be about the same though.
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Old 08-19-2004, 07:32 AM   #42
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Woooo Hoooo!!!! Dont gotta worry about messing w/ my motors anymore! Axiom Motors
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