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Old 10-06-2010, 05:33 AM   #61
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BEST:

AE RC10
LOSI JRX-Pro SE Made it OK to have a plastic tub chassis in a comp buggy
AE RC10GT Who didn't have one of these?
LOSI JRXS Type-R Ahead of it's time? Small tweaks would make it up-to-date
LOSI 8ight Challenged the typical layout design of 1/8 buggies.


WORST:

Anything XTM
HPI RS4 series(electric & nitro) Put to market actually NEEDING upgrades. Drained pockets of many. After all, HPI started as a "hop up" company.
AE RC10GT Took too dang long to update in the "Drake" era. GT2 was a little too late.


THE ABSOLUTE WORST:

A toss up between the day Horizon bought Losi or the day Jr left Losi.
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Old 10-06-2010, 06:34 AM   #62
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From 1/8 nitro perspective;

Best;
1) Delta Super Eagle
2) Kyosho Landjump


Worst;
1) Yankee Buggy(can't remember the model name)
2) Siccom Magnum
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Old 10-06-2010, 06:45 AM   #63
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I agree! I wish Losi would bring back the XXX-S in a two deck graphite plate car. With brushless there would be no issues with the drive train. Imagine how simple the design would be with some top deck flex options like current cars, two piece bulkheads, great JRXS shocks, one piece toe blocks, and vertical ball studs. I don't understand why Losi won't do it. Many say the single belt was one of the best Mod cars.

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For me, the best and most revolutionary car of all time was the Prototype XXXS, twin deck, single belt, amazing to watch going round.
4 of them turned up to a UK national and got top 4 spots straight away.

I really do think they were close to perfection until a tub car appeared lmao



And worst? From my experiance,
the old Xpress touring cars and minis, they were proper sheds, poor fitment, high price, low quality lol
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Old 10-06-2010, 10:29 AM   #64
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Hands down the greatest was the sanyo nicads, without their involvement we would not be where were at right now..
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Old 10-06-2010, 11:09 AM   #65
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Stealth tranny was first introduced by MIP as an aftermarket upgrade.
The Stealth tranny is the trademarked name for the AE 3 gear transmission. It was based on the 3 gear transmission made by Eustace Moore of MIP. After seeing how people were ditching the horrible 6 gear AE tranny for the MIP 3 gear, AE worked with MIP to develope the Stealth. In fact, it was MIP who made all the parts for the Stealth tranny.

Another MIP great would be the CVDs which was a much better solution than the clunky universals available at the time.

An MIP flop... The MIP 4wd conversion for the RC10. It had a front gearbox held by only two tiny 4-40 screws and required modding of the front arms to fit the hub and knuckles which were extremely fragile. Not to mention the fact that the conversion kit was quite costly.
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Old 10-06-2010, 11:12 AM   #66
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Hands down the greatest was the sanyo nicads, without their involvement we would not be where were at right now..
On the flip side to that, the Intellec IB4300s and all the Intellec batteries were the worst. Too much maintenance and not enough battery life.
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BEST:

AE RC10
LOSI JRX-Pro SE Made it OK to have a plastic tub chassis in a comp buggy
AE RC10GT Who didn't have one of these?
LOSI JRXS Type-R Ahead of it's time? Small tweaks would make it up-to-date
LOSI 8ight Challenged the typical layout design of 1/8 buggies.


WORST:

Anything XTM
HPI RS4 series(electric & nitro) Put to market actually NEEDING upgrades. Drained pockets of many. After all, HPI started as a "hop up" company.
AE RC10GT Took too dang long to update in the "Drake" era. GT2 was a little too late.


THE ABSOLUTE WORST:

A toss up between the day Horizon bought Losi or the day Jr left Losi.



I actually forgot about XTM's existence.... Thanks for the reminder
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Old 10-06-2010, 11:15 AM   #68
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Which the Chain drive Fantom's or the later Belt drive Plazma's?

What about the Mugen Bulldog, still the only car I believe to be released with Air Dampers, what were they thinking?
Do you have a pic or can link me to a pic of this belt driven Plazma?

I have a chain drive Fantom and a belt drive Hirobo but I never knew they made a 4wd Plazma with a belt. That would be interesting to see.
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Losi went downhill after purchased by Horizon Hobby, some of their entry to mid level stuff especially RTRs are build by the Charisma folks. Although their high-end RTR comes with DX3S, that's worth mentioning.
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Old 10-06-2010, 11:22 AM   #70
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Losi went downhill after purchased by Horizon Hobby, some of their entry to mid level stuff especially RTRs are build by the Charisma folks. Although their high-end RTR comes with DX3S, that's worth mentioning.
It should have been known from the getgo that Horizon was gonna make Losi into a toy company. Right now they're just a Horizon brand to compete against Traxxas. But then again, AE, Kyosho and HPI aren't far from that also.
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Kyosho didn't make it big in U.S. mainly due to Hobbico / Great Plane as its US distributor. I think they're doing so-so currently, maybe need to partner up with a main hobby distributor here in US.

Thanks to Novak for the one-touch setup. I still have old Tekin and Novak with neutral and throttle potentiometer adjustment dials. They still work today and aged about 17 - 20 years, I bought them brand new back in the good old days.

As for Yokomo, I have a mixed feeling about the company. Happy times were the super dog fighter, YR4M2, GT4 days. Then started turning direction when nano stuff and drift cars came out.
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THE GOOD
RC10 gold pan 2wd buggy (leading edge & dominated offroad for years)
HPI Micro RS4 (innovative design using full size radio gear)
AE TC3 (sealed tranny)
Corally 12th scale (servicable without tools = innovative)
HPI RS4 Pro2 (grand daddy of sedans and the layout still used today)
Web based final drive ratio / rollout calculators
Tire truers racers can actually afford
Brushless motors (no more comm lathes, brushes, brush grinders, etc... YAH)
RTR kits (introduced more people to the hobby/sport)
Disappearance of mechanical speed controls in kits and the addition of ESC instead
Pre-glued sedan rubber tires (no more making a mess)


THE BAD
Corally 12th scale (dumb proprietary tires)
AE TC4 (lots of hype for less performance than the TC3)
Parma Europanther 12th scale
FSR Bullet (electric AND 3 belts?)
Schumacher cars (great designs but very poor support and extremely high prices)
OFNA (same comments as Schumacer)
Kyosho (same comments as Schumacer)
HPI Pro3 (not much more than a parking lot toy)
RTR kits (nobody knows how to build a car anymore)
Tamiya bodies that cost way too much
Companies releasing a new & improved chassis annually (too expensive to keep up)
Drifting

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I remember the FSR car as well, wow they were many hits and misses during past 2 - 3 decades.

There was another chassis and a mini version of it. It was called Express, express gto. I can't remember who made it.

I miss the old car magazines. The old editors: Doug Howell, John Hubert, George Gonzalez, Frank Masi, I wonder what happened to them... I think Masi still works for AirAge. Last but not least, Chris Chianelli, one of the nicest person I ever met in person.
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FSR Bullet (electric AND 3 belts?)
There's nothing wrong with using three belts with electric. The Team Magic E4 is doing it that way and is running really well.

The problem with the FSR was that it was a bit ahead of its time. Three belts then meant more friction and drag on an electric system that needs every ounce of power it can get. Nowadays we run lightweight lipos with high power brushless motors and escs so the drag of the third belt is minimal. Not only that, belts nowadays are also more efficient because of better materials. The idea behind the FSR was to make it like a gas car with more centralized weight of the battery centered in the chassis.

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I remember the FSR car as well, wow they were many hits and misses during past 2 - 3 decades.

There was another chassis and a mini version of it. It was called Express, express gto. I can't remember who made it.

I miss the old car magazines. The old editors: Doug Howell, John Hubert, George Gonzalez, Frank Masi, I wonder what happened to them... I think Masi still works for AirAge. Last but not least, Chris Chianelli, one of the nicest person I ever met in person.
From Chris's Wiki Page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Chianelli

On January 20, 2009, Chianelli died of natural causes.
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