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Old 10-31-2010, 07:03 PM   #331
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Hi guys, everyone needs to try the H1 and H2 camber links in the front. Paul and I tried and ran them at the Halloween race. I picked up 2 tenths 10.3 to 10.1. Paul went the same speed but said he would stick with them. We ran them in the low long spot on the tower with 2mm shims under the link. Run the H1 on the left and the H2 on the right. Please post feedback here.

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1+, .14 seconds better on average, more predictable turn in with a very mild push on exit out.
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Old 10-31-2010, 07:12 PM   #332
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I have just bought these for my T2 009, Am I right in thinking that running them in the front only will give more grip to that end of the car. I always thought that by lowering the inner camber link end gave more grip but Im confused now ??? can some one explain in simple terms please lol
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1+, .14 seconds better on average, more predictable turn in with a very mild push on exit out.
Great to hear. Think alot of guys were trying this link this weekend so there should be more feedback coming soon.

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I have just bought these for my T2 009, Am I right in thinking that running them in the front only will give more grip to that end of the car. I always thought that by lowering the inner camber link end gave more grip but Im confused now ??? can some one explain in simple terms please lol
When you run the H1H2's in the spot that I have them in the front its more camber gain. Its a little more then the hill billy link but its a shorter link so its more responseive. I think we will end up running them in the rear also but high and long instead how the front is low and long. More camber gain in the front and less camber gain in the rear. Really all I look at with the camber links is how much camber gain I have and tune from there . Don't know if thats right but thats how I do it.

Hope thats helps.

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Old 11-01-2010, 03:09 AM   #334
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Great to hear. Think alot of guys were trying this link this weekend so there should be more feedback coming soon.



When you run the H1H2's in the spot that I have them in the front its more camber gain. Its a little more then the hill billy link but its a shorter link so its more responseive. I think we will end up running them in the rear also but high and long instead how the front is low and long. More camber gain in the front and less camber gain in the rear. Really all I look at with the camber links is how much camber gain I have and tune from there . Don't know if thats right but thats how I do it.

Hope thats helps.

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Hi Drew,

I know you have tried the H mounts on carpet but do you have any thoughts on the above set up in relation to the T3 2011 on asphalt ?
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Hi Drew,

I know you have tried the H mounts on carpet but do you have any thoughts on the above set up in relation to the T3 2011 on asphalt ?

Have not had a chance to test it on asphalt yet, but I would think that it would do the same thing. Maybe jusy a 1mm shim instead of a 2mm shim underneath the link.

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I tried the H1/H2 on my regular t3 in mod asphalt rubber, major on power push, no other change. I did only run 1mm outisde shim and maybe if I played with droop and ran a 2mm shim it would be nice .
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I tried the H1/H2 on my regular t3 in mod asphalt rubber, major on power push, no other change. I did only run 1mm outisde shim and maybe if I played with droop and ran a 2mm shim it would be nice .
Try 2mm shim and less droop in the front.

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I did reduce my outside spacing 1mm, from 3mm to 2mm.
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Would increasing the shims from 1mm (kit) to 2mm on the steering post increase of decrease steering?

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Would increasing the shims from 1mm (kit) to 2mm on the steering post increase of decrease steering?

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It will increase steering. Its more camber gain, if you want to see how it effects the camber put it on the hudy camber gauges and push down lightly. Do it with the 1mm and then do it with the 2mm shims, you will see that there is an increase in the camber gain.

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Hi Drew,

Thanks for the reply.

What exactly does the ackermann shim do when increasing from 1mm to 2mm?

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Would increasing the shims from 1mm (kit) to 2mm on the steering post increase of decrease steering?

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It will increase steering. Its more camber gain, if you want to see how it effects the camber put it on the hudy camber gauges and push down lightly. Do it with the 1mm and then do it with the 2mm shims, you will see that there is an increase in the camber gain.

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I think this question was related to ackerman, not camber gain. I've always felt that moving the ackerman forward (less ackerman) will increase steering through the entire corner.
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Hi Drew,

Thanks for the reply.

What exactly does the ackermann shim do when increasing from 1mm to 2mm?

Karl

Ah, I'm too slow (as usual!) Hopefully my last post helps!
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Ok clear now. Thanks for replies
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Sorry about that, we have been on this whole camber link talk and I read it wrong. But Robbie is right adding shims always feels like it gives the car more steering though out the turn. I am at long wheelbase in the front with 4mm shims for ackerman.

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