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Old 06-08-2011, 09:28 PM   #2356
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Does anyone know if parts from the Serpent S411 will fit the T3'11? It looks like a T3'11 knock off. I'm mainly interested in the shocks and the gear diff.

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Does anyone know if parts from the Serpent S411 will fit the T3'11? It looks like a T3'11 knock off. I'm mainly interested in the shocks and the gear diff.

http://www.serpent.com/product/400005
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Old 06-08-2011, 11:50 PM   #2358
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Does anyone know if parts from the Serpent S411 will fit the T3'11? It looks like a T3'11 knock off. I'm mainly interested in the shocks and the gear diff.

http://www.serpent.com/product/400005
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Does anyone know if parts from the Serpent S411 will fit the T3'11? It looks like a T3'11 knock off. I'm mainly interested in the shocks and the gear diff.

http://www.serpent.com/product/400005
that does look similar...........
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Old 06-09-2011, 01:09 AM   #2360
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Im pretty sure the XRAY T1 used Serpent shocks, so there maybe some parts x-over ?? (its a long shot I know)
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Old 06-09-2011, 08:57 AM   #2361
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All Tc's are basically the same today...moot point
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Old 06-09-2011, 09:55 AM   #2362
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Have I been adjusting my droop wrong If my car was a bit loose off power into a corner I thought I could increase the rear droop (lower number on droop gauge) which would allow the tyres to stay on the ground more as the weight went forward, but reading the XXX Main book it says I should be reducing the rear droop (higher number on droop gauge)
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Have I been adjusting my droop wrong If my car was a bit loose off power into a corner I thought I could increase the rear droop (lower number on droop gauge) which would allow the tyres to stay on the ground more as the weight went forward, but reading the XXX Main book it says I should be reducing the rear droop (higher number on droop gauge)

Correct. If your car is over-steering off power, you will want to limit your droop. This will reduce the amount of weight that transfers forward, which adds rear traction and reduces front traction off power.
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Have I been adjusting my droop wrong If my car was a bit loose off power into a corner I thought I could increase the rear droop (lower number on droop gauge) which would allow the tyres to stay on the ground more as the weight went forward, but reading the XXX Main book it says I should be reducing the rear droop (higher number on droop gauge)
Think of it this way. Off power and under braking the weight moves forward. If the rear of the car is allowed to lift up more the weight will "tip" forward more. ( imagine a car completely vertical resting on the front bumper ). Where is the weight? It's all on the nose / front / bumper )
So even though ( with more rear droop ) the rear tires are touching the ground more the weight is off of them so they aren't as effective maintaining grip.
Basically more droop gives traction to the opposite end of the car in most situations.
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Have I been adjusting my droop wrong If my car was a bit loose off power into a corner I thought I could increase the rear droop (lower number on droop gauge) which would allow the tyres to stay on the ground more as the weight went forward, but reading the XXX Main book it says I should be reducing the rear droop (higher number on droop gauge)
Do this - take our dropp screws all the way out, place your car on the table and lift the suspension on that end of the car. Notice how much uptravel it has until the tires lift off the table?

Now, screw them in pretty far... notice how you don't have nearly the amount of uptravel you did once before and the wheels come off the ground much quicker?

So, the more you screw in the screws (higher on the gauge) the faster the suspension can max out and the wheels lift off the ground. This translates into less weight being thrown forward off power and thus less steering....
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Thanks all, makes sense now.
Don't think I was thinking of it in weight transfer ways but more of keeping the tyres on the ground, if that makes sense
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What wt oil would you normally use for asphalt and carpet ? and how do you know when to go thinner or thicker ?

Do you also change depending on track/air temperature etc ?

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hey guys, just built my first xray (t3 11), really impressed with the build quality, everything went together perfectly, in 23 years of racing (minus a recent 5 year hiatus) its by far the best build ive had!

done the servo conversion, really good throw on the servo, maximum lock easily achieved from side to side and seems really smooth.

anything i need to know to get these bad boys flying on carpet with rubbers?
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hey guys, just built my first xray (t3 11), really impressed with the build quality, everything went together perfectly, in 23 years of racing (minus a recent 5 year hiatus) its by far the best build ive had!

done the servo conversion, really good throw on the servo, maximum lock easily achieved from side to side and seems really smooth.

anything i need to know to get these bad boys flying on carpet with rubbers?
Yeah, make sure she is tested

Seriously though, as long as you built it properly, ask around your track for the best tire/addictive combo and throw her down...
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What wt oil would you normally use for asphalt and carpet ? and how do you know when to go thinner or thicker ?

Do you also change depending on track/air temperature etc ?

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Higher bite = thicker oil

Hotter conditions = thicker oil.

Some people have the same shock oil front and rear while others make the front a bit thicker (around 100-150 cSt difference). A lot of oil is feel of the car when you make changes. Have fun and experiment.
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