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Old 08-28-2011, 07:34 AM   #526
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I'm finding this motor to be very soft compared to others. This is with standard 0 timing. Maybe I got a monday or friday motor, but it doesnt seem to rev out like my other motors. Running 13.5 about 7.5fdr with tekin esc
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Is that with a boosted profile, or blinky?
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Old 08-28-2011, 12:47 PM   #528
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Hello,

I like the duo 3 boosted feeling. But i have some rotor clearance problem.

My washers bronze is a little damaged after only 10 packs...

Am i alone with this problem ?
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Old 08-28-2011, 01:13 PM   #529
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Default WGT DUO 3 13.5 BLINKY

Attending the IIC and competing in WGT 13.5 blinky looking for rollout and motor timing for my DUO 3 Txs in advance for any help offered.
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Attending the IIC and competing in WGT 13.5 blinky looking for rollout and motor timing for my DUO 3 Txs in advance for any help offered.
I would use a Team Epic RevTech for your application over a Duo3
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Old 08-28-2011, 08:31 PM   #531
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I would use a Team Epic RevTech for your application over a Duo3
Isn't the RevTech motor applicable to 1 cell oval?
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Old 08-29-2011, 04:50 AM   #532
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Is that with a boosted profile, or blinky?
boosted.

I find the speed passion motor to have more grunt and top end. I have tried different settings on timing/turbo/motor timing, but it seems to me the D3 is soft in comparison
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Isn't the RevTech motor applicable to 1 cell oval?
No the ReVtechs were designed around a large Torque power band. They produce more torque across the board with a slight increase in RPM as well.

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Old 08-29-2011, 11:35 AM   #534
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EA,

Do the ReVtech's and the D3 (17.5) use the exact same tuning rotors?

Are the rotors that come standard in the 17.5 motors of each brand the same rotor type? Which one is it?


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Hacker: I run a 17.5, and have the 3 rotors. I like the rpm rotor for a more open track, but use the torque when they build a tight track. I have to run blinky mode so it maybe totally different for you, got a good metal fan and some computer CPU heat transfer compound. drp'd my temp 40F on my temp after 6mn. main. was able to add 10 degrees more timing. I have a T2R with gear diffs, ussually 4.1- 3.8 gear ratio. Chris
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EA,

Do the ReVtech's and the D3 (17.5) use the exact same tuning rotors?

Are the rotors that come standard in the 17.5 motors of each brand the same rotor type? Which one is it?


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The rotor that comes in the Revtech motor is the same 12.3 broad range rotor as the D3. The others will fit as well. We did get a batch of Revtechs in last week that came with the 12.5 rotor in them. Those are marked though and was just a few that came that way.

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The rotor that comes in the Revtech motor is the same 12.3 broad range rotor as the D3. The others will fit as well. We did get a batch of Revtechs in last week that came with the 12.5 rotor in them. Those are marked though and was just a few that came that way.

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How did those (with the 12.5 rotor) dyno out compared to the 12.3? Much more rpm and watt output on the lower torque settings with just a little more on the high end?
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Old 09-01-2011, 02:51 AM   #538
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Am i the only one who have rotor clearance problem with this motor ?

After only 10 packs the shim is damaged
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Looking for some baseline settings. 17.5 TC class, no boost or timing advance at speedo allowed, but you can advance the motor timing. Small, tight track on rubber tires. Looking for a starting point for FDR or rollout settings and motor timing settings for a TC5R, LRP SXX TC Spec, and 17.5 D3 on 2S LiPo. Thanks.
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Looking for some baseline settings. 17.5 TC class, no boost or timing advance at speedo allowed, but you can advance the motor timing. Small, tight track on rubber tires. Looking for a starting point for FDR or rollout settings and motor timing settings for a TC5R, LRP SXX TC Spec, and 17.5 D3 on 2S LiPo. Thanks.
Define "Small, tight track..."

Start with the timing mark on zero (which is not really zero overal timing), and a 4.0 FDR. Adjust timing/gearing from there with an eye to temps and overall performance. Find a high CFM/Amp draw fan(the boss/geisha/fantom fans are all gone, so best option is for a Yeah Racing 25 or 30mm tornado fan) and have it blowing on your motor, wired to battery + and -. Even with ambient temps in the 100s F, it's not uncommon to see setups geared into the 3.2ish FDR running under 160 on some of the larger tracks.

More and more these new motors have enough torque to swing a huge pinion, which helps with overall speed, but don't have enough extra output to pull hard off of the corners, and because of that, blinky is a game of having enough corner speed/motor RPMs to be able to effectively use the motor's power band AFTER apexing the corner. If you're not holding enough corner speed, it's a point-and-shoot affair, and you'll be left in someone elses dust.

Remember, the motor sees only the final number, so wether you're running a primary drive of 94/47 or a 102/51, it's the same thing. Pick gears that physically fit and give you the proper adjustment range up and down for your chassis.

There is also some school of thought that says a smaller/lighter spur/pinion is prefered to a larger spur/pinion combination. Whatever, I find that it's more about adjusting weight balance, but a few mm of movement of the motor fore or aft isn't nearly as effective 10grams of ballast lead properly applied(most chassis need weight added to make tech anyway).
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