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Old 09-12-2010, 12:10 PM   #1
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I'm in the process of getting back in to R/C cars after about a 25 year break. I used to run 1/12 electric indoor/carpet (AE RC12E and RC12i, to be exact). My main interest now is the 1/10 TC, because that's closest to what I used to do, and it looks like an absolute blast! I bought a used TC5 out of brand loyalty, and it's definitely a whole different animal from what I was used to.

I'm trying to read through the forums and websites to become a little educated before I go to the track to run for the first time, but I'm noticing a distinct lack of TC content in ALL of the available RC magazine. Seems like the only time on-road stuff gets mentioned is when somebody releases a new kit. 95% of the content is off-road.

Is off-raod THAT much more popular than the on-road stuff these days? There's tons of kits for TC out there, so there must be a demand or the manufacturers wouldn't bother. Am I just reading the wrong mags?
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Yes onroad electric has died down alot, i believe offroad is king now and will be!!! Offroad appeals to more people now.
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Potoczak is absolutely right. However, a lot of the blame for this is the rc magazines themselves because they are responsible for over-promoting off-road over on-road because many of their editors are off-road guys themselves. They make only a token effort to cover anything on-road. I have written to them all many times and asked for equal coverage between on and off road, but they refuse to listen. They justify it by saying that they are only giving the public what they want. But the hole in that argument is that we as a society are controlled by the media and what they put out there and tell us what we want, and like sheep we go along with it. So if the rc magazines, the media, is constantly promoting off-road, what do you think people are going to want?!!
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+1 Team Lotus you are exactly right. In my area here in PA my local hobby shop is selling 10th scale electric offroad trucks for $119 bucks.RTR might i add. People are buying them like crazy!!! Try to find a touring car for that price!!!!!
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Personally, I feel that the appeal of off road is that they can be ran anywhere, even in your own back yard, where as on road needs a prepaired track.
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Potoczak is absolutely right. However, a lot of the blame for this is the rc magazines themselves because they are responsible for over-promoting off-road over on-road because many of their editors are off-road guys themselves. They make only a token effort to cover anything on-road. I have written to them all many times and asked for equal coverage between on and off road, but they refuse to listen. They justify it by saying that they are only giving the public what they want. But the hole in that argument is that we as a society are controlled by the media and what they put out there and tell us what we want, and like sheep we go along with it. So if the rc magazines, the media, is constantly promoting off-road, what do you think people are going to want?!!
It has nothing todo with what the editors run, its what pays the bills, and off-road pays the bills and then some.
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Do you guys think onroad will ever come back strong
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Off-road received a gigantic shot in the arm with short course, sparked by the Slash being adopted as a great spec class (and a spec short course class still persists at most tracks, to this day). It created an incredible entry point RTR for new people, was evangelized heavily by other racers, and people flocked to it. Ease of entry plus great, scale looks on the track made it explode.

Meanwhile, on-road has evolved into a "too many classes and not enough racers" situation and as people got tired of throwing money at it constantly, with no low-cost class to run, it started losing racers left and right. The ones that were left were the die hards who ran classes that are way, way too fast for newcomers to join in on and a scenario has been created where outsiders now have a perception that on-road is a closed community of hardcore racers who throw thousands of dollars at their cars, just to be competitive. RCGT had a chance to turn that around, but it was not policed and it sunk into the same morass it seemed created to avoid...people used timing boost to gain an advantage, if you didn't have money for the latest electronics, you were going to get torched on the track. Nevermind the fact that HPI's "spec" tire burns out in one day of racing, so you spend a lot of money on tires.

At my local track, we're starting to turn things around by offering a Super GT class, with very simple tech rules (21.5 motor, 0 timing on ESC, long-wearing Solaris hard compound tire, realistic body) and a super attractive entry point for rookies. Slower, more controllable speeds, a level playing field with tires, and attractive scale looking bodies. Basically trying to mimic as much of what the Slash did so well, and bring it to on-road. We're just working on getting an RTR vehicle to market with it at the hobby shop level, now.

There are solutions to the problems, but the community of racers has historically had an extremely difficult time agreeing on anything. We're going to try and turn the tide at our local track, and go from there with fewer classes based on no ESC timing boost and rules that are consistently enforced. It may not be the explosion that short course created, but it's a start.

If something sparks a resurgence of on-road, I guarantee the magazines will be there to cover it.
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