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Old 07-30-2012, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by mr lee
The 416WE/X and 417 share the same suspension parts so the C hubs are still the same. The standard 416 also had the same Chubs, knuckles and rear hubs but the suspension arms were different.
Actually the chubs were updated some time in the 416WE model cycle. The original hubs off the 416 were far less meaty and more brittle than the current ones, so the mould was changed but the part number stated the same
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Old 07-30-2012, 03:56 PM
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hello, i need some help, im owner of a 417x, im not an experimented driver, i want to know how to make the steering smoother cause mine is a little bit nervous.
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Originally Posted by osorron
hello, i need some help, im owner of a 417x, im not an experimented driver, i want to know how to make the steering smoother cause mine is a little bit nervous.
thanks
Is the steering rack properly shimmed? I had this issue when I had a 417. Jilles looked it over at 2011 snowbirds and fixed it. There is a shim not mentioned in the assembly instructions that needs to be used. It will bind up if not used.
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Old 07-30-2012, 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Jamison R
Is the steering rack properly shimmed? I had this issue when I had a 417. Jilles looked it over at 2011 snowbirds and fixed it. There is a shim not mentioned in the assembly instructions that needs to be used. It will bind up if not used.
Which shim is that one?
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Old 07-31-2012, 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Jamison R
Is the steering rack properly shimmed? I had this issue when I had a 417. Jilles looked it over at 2011 snowbirds and fixed it. There is a shim not mentioned in the assembly instructions that needs to be used. It will bind up if not used.
I build my steering assembly by the book and it couldn't be any smoother.
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Old 07-31-2012, 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Cpt.America
I build my steering assembly by the book and it couldn't be any smoother.
417 or 417x? I had the 417. I built mine by the book too. It tightened up about half lock. Just my personal experience
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Old 07-31-2012, 08:28 AM
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Wonder how long for the 418 wc car to hit the shelves
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Old 07-31-2012, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by CraigM
Actually the chubs were updated some time in the 416WE model cycle. The original hubs off the 416 were far less meaty and more brittle than the current ones, so the mould was changed but the part number stated the same
Thanks, good to know.
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Old 07-31-2012, 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by rosko
Wonder how long for the 418 wc car to hit the shelves
Unless there's a change to the screw pattern of the bulkheads (ie. new bulkheads), I don't expect there to be a 418. Every significant change I've seen since the 417 has come out has been in manipulating flex through different decks. That, and including gear diffs in the kit. Unless I'm mistaken, I see kit bulkheads on Jilles' car. Even the new servo mount looks like it's simply retrofitted to an existing deck. The outside mount hole is still there. 417 WC kit...absolutely. I don't see why it would be a 418, however.

A sharper-eyed person may come to a different conclusion...
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Originally Posted by Jamison R
417 or 417x? I had the 417. I built mine by the book too. It tightened up about half lock. Just my personal experience
417x, same car the guy you responded to is running.
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Old 07-31-2012, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by rosko
Wonder how long for the 418 wc car to hit the shelves
I think it is more likely to see a 417 World Championship edition...I would not expect a 418 until next year at the earliest. Unless they move the bulkeds and have to redrill the bulked holes in the chassis, then you won't see the number increment to 418.
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I wonder if the new car will come with 0.5mm shims for under all the bulkheads?

Can any trainspotters out there figure out what damper cylinders they used at the worlds? I thought they were the TRF buggy ones but the buggy HL dampers won't take the blue lower cap - their lower shock cap is an insert style.

http://www.rcmart.com/tamiya-42132-c...h=595_744_1011
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TAMIYA new lower deck 2.5mm arrived
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Old 08-02-2012, 03:10 AM
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Originally Posted by RC MARKET
TAMIYA new lower deck 2.5mm arrived
What about the new Tamiya upper deck? Will you be getting those in soon as well?
Thx!
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Originally Posted by CraigM
I wonder if the new car will come with 0.5mm shims for under all the bulkheads?

Can any trainspotters out there figure out what damper cylinders they used at the worlds? I thought they were the TRF buggy ones but the buggy HL dampers won't take the blue lower cap - their lower shock cap is an insert style.

http://www.rcmart.com/tamiya-42132-c...h=595_744_1011
Possibly a prototype....

They do not look like anything else that is currently available.
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