4LikesTamiya TRF417
09-24-2012, 10:13 AM
#3961
Here a good set up for carpet: www.
automodelli.it/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=40479&whichpage=43
automodelli.it/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=40479&whichpage=43
Last edited by meccanico; 09-24-2012 at 10:48 AM.
09-24-2012, 10:30 AM
#3962
Tech Initiate
just got back it to racing after 2years off
attached my set-up any ideas welcome
i race on astroturf with schuy yellow mini-pins lots of grip but lots of wear
normally put new rears on 2-3 runs & put them on front
with the set up im running i get a lot of off power push /slide on turn in high speed
as the run goes on im chaseing more front grip each run(as tyres wear)
any help please (also some said to me dremel out top plate front brace)?
attached my set-up any ideas welcome
i race on astroturf with schuy yellow mini-pins lots of grip but lots of wear
normally put new rears on 2-3 runs & put them on front
with the set up im running i get a lot of off power push /slide on turn in high speed
as the run goes on im chaseing more front grip each run(as tyres wear)
any help please (also some said to me dremel out top plate front brace)?
Last edited by dean-oz; 09-24-2012 at 12:16 PM.
09-26-2012, 04:42 AM
#3964
Tech Regular
just got back it to racing after 2years off
attached my set-up any ideas welcome
i race on astroturf with schuy yellow mini-pins lots of grip but lots of wear
normally put new rears on 2-3 runs & put them on front
with the set up im running i get a lot of off power push /slide on turn in high speed
as the run goes on im chaseing more front grip each run(as tyres wear)
any help please (also some said to me dremel out top plate front brace)?
attached my set-up any ideas welcome
i race on astroturf with schuy yellow mini-pins lots of grip but lots of wear
normally put new rears on 2-3 runs & put them on front
with the set up im running i get a lot of off power push /slide on turn in high speed
as the run goes on im chaseing more front grip each run(as tyres wear)
any help please (also some said to me dremel out top plate front brace)?
The only thing I can really see to try is use a couple mm less under your front camber link and maybe lighter diff oil, maybe 800cst?
09-26-2012, 05:19 AM
#3965
Tech Regular
just got back it to racing after 2years off
attached my set-up any ideas welcome
i race on astroturf with schuy yellow mini-pins lots of grip but lots of wear
normally put new rears on 2-3 runs & put them on front
with the set up im running i get a lot of off power push /slide on turn in high speed
as the run goes on im chaseing more front grip each run(as tyres wear)
any help please (also some said to me dremel out top plate front brace)?
attached my set-up any ideas welcome
i race on astroturf with schuy yellow mini-pins lots of grip but lots of wear
normally put new rears on 2-3 runs & put them on front
with the set up im running i get a lot of off power push /slide on turn in high speed
as the run goes on im chaseing more front grip each run(as tyres wear)
any help please (also some said to me dremel out top plate front brace)?
where in the uk runs tc on astro? are there jumps too!
09-26-2012, 10:18 AM
#3966
Tech Initiate
indoor sports hall
norwich
used to be kellers car club theres a web site with pics
no jumps unless u lauch it off the road rail track they run
09-27-2012, 08:15 AM
#3967
Last edited by Skitee; 09-27-2012 at 01:06 PM.
09-27-2012, 10:34 AM
#3968
09-27-2012, 11:32 AM
#3969
Tech Initiate
very nice kit
09-28-2012, 02:26 AM
#3970
Recently we acquired a 417 to do some testing and develop some items for the car. I have been very curious about the geometry and weight distribution of the car to help us further develop our RSD6 chassis platform. I also wanted to see which items would work cross-platform.
For what it's worth, I tested our bladders, shock seals and purple springs on the car. Every item outperformed the Tamiya counter parts and the purple springs actually had a better feel than the HPI Silver. However, our springs are 13mm vs 14mm in I.D.
For what it's worth, I tested our bladders, shock seals and purple springs on the car. Every item outperformed the Tamiya counter parts and the purple springs actually had a better feel than the HPI Silver. However, our springs are 13mm vs 14mm in I.D.
09-29-2012, 05:34 PM
#3972
The 417 is a lot more rear biased than the tc6. The motor, and battery are a good 6-8 mm further back than on the tc6. The rsd6 is somewhere in between as the battery can be moved back 5mm vs the tc6. Geometry wise the 6.1 arms are almost a copy from the trf ones, but the upper rear hub position is 2-3mm further out in the 6.1
Diff position is also another thing that is different as well. The tc6's diffs are either higher than the lowest 417 or a bit higher. I feel like it lacks an in between position.
Lastly, the wheelbase is a lot longer on the tc6 in std setting.
At the moment, they are both fast, very similar laptimes. The rsd6 feels more locked in on the track, while the 417 feels like it has more corner speed, however the lap times come out so close it's not funny.
I am trying to replicate the geometry of the 417 on the rsd6 to see what the effect on the car is. The rsd6 is narrower and the motor does not overhang as far out. So it will be interesting to ser what happens.
Diff position is also another thing that is different as well. The tc6's diffs are either higher than the lowest 417 or a bit higher. I feel like it lacks an in between position.
Lastly, the wheelbase is a lot longer on the tc6 in std setting.
At the moment, they are both fast, very similar laptimes. The rsd6 feels more locked in on the track, while the 417 feels like it has more corner speed, however the lap times come out so close it's not funny.
I am trying to replicate the geometry of the 417 on the rsd6 to see what the effect on the car is. The rsd6 is narrower and the motor does not overhang as far out. So it will be interesting to ser what happens.
Last edited by CristianTabush; 09-30-2012 at 09:04 AM.
09-30-2012, 08:08 AM
#3973
Tech Regular
Dean I didnt you were running a tamiya. Thats 4 at trowse now. (I race there aswell btw) My car has plenty of steering but can be a little on the edge with rear end grip. My brothers trf417 is the opposite, he has loads of rear end grip but his has a bit of understeer.
09-30-2012, 10:57 AM
#3974
Tech Initiate
what parts (numbers) do I need if I want to rebuild my 417x dampers to that of the 417WX?
thanks
thanks
09-30-2012, 11:43 AM
#3975
Tech Regular