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Old 07-07-2012, 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris Furman
Tamiya DCJs last in mod or will I be rebuilding them every other week? I was planning on running a spool... maybe better off trying a front gear diff with steel shafts instead? Will be running a 4.0T on a 230 foot straight.

Also, which is the best brand spur gear for 417X fitment? Since I will be running outdoors, would like to change to 48 pitch... something like a 87T or 89T 48P to a 19 or 20t pinion = ~8.7FDR
The tamiya DCJs are great for mod, they are the strongest DCJs I've ever used. The question was how often should they be rebuilt to ensure maximum life and the answer is every meet. If you wanted you could run them for 6 months without rebuilding.

Panaracer are the best spurs. They make their own spacer for the 417 centre shaft assembly to get the play right too, you can buy them from rcmarket. That said, I run outdoors mod with the stock 64p spurs are they are fine.

What kind of track/wind would you run 8.7 FDR?
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Originally Posted by CraigM
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Thanks Craig
now i know how to get rid of some slop in the front, didnt know could shim the inside of the cvd's, know what i'll be doing if its damp tomorrow

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Hey guys, wil the spec-r spool for the 417 fit on the 416 worlds edition? Or is there anywhere that makes steel outdrives for the tamiya spool? Thanks!

this spool...
http://www.tqrcracing.com/shop/produ...on_id=&pg_no=1
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Originally Posted by CraigM
The tamiya DCJs are great for mod, they are the strongest DCJs I've ever used. The question was how often should they be rebuilt to ensure maximum life and the answer is every meet. If you wanted you could run them for 6 months without rebuilding.

Panaracer are the best spurs. They make their own spacer for the 417 centre shaft assembly to get the play right too, you can buy them from rcmarket. That said, I run outdoors mod with the stock 64p spurs are they are fine.

What kind of track/wind would you run 8.7 FDR?
Thank you for the info.. would be running 4.0T motor.... calculated 111/25. Here is the track:


http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Woodvi...d,+OH&t=h&z=20
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Originally Posted by Chris Furman
Thank you for the info.. would be running 4.0T motor.... calculated 111/25. Here is the track:


http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Woodvi...d,+OH&t=h&z=20
Cool looking track! I'm not sure I'd go for a 4t or that gearing there, it depends what equipment you're running I guess.

Originally Posted by samsking
Hey guys, wil the spec-r spool for the 417 fit on the 416 worlds edition? Or is there anywhere that makes steel outdrives for the tamiya spool? Thanks!

this spool...
http://www.tqrcracing.com/shop/produ...on_id=&pg_no=1
The 417 and 416 spools are the same so it will fit. You can get steel outdrives for the normal spool from arena, roche, square, and tamiya
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Old 07-07-2012, 03:40 PM
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[QUOTE=CraigM;10947386]Cool looking track! I'm not sure I'd go for a 4t or that gearing there, it depends what equipment you're running I guess.
Why not? What gearing would you run
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Originally Posted by bosfan
Why not? What gearing would you run
I think a 4t geared that low would rev out on the straight and have too much grunt in the infield. I'd start with a 4.5 at around 7.8FDR, but it depends what motor what speedo how much boost etc etc.
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Lots of pics of Viktor's car from ETS. See anything new?
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Originally Posted by syndr0me
Lots of pics of Viktor's car from ETS. See anything new?
Only thing I can see out of the ordinary is that he has his battery forward
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Originally Posted by CraigM
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Very interesting....you mention to ensure that the front belt is tighter than the rear if the car is taily....

Could this be the reason why my car wants to spin around at the exit of every turn? By simply using the eccentric settings as per the manual, my front belt is indeed more loose than the rear....
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Originally Posted by mhavlena
Very interesting....you mention to ensure that the front belt is tighter than the rear if the car is taily....

Could this be the reason why my car wants to spin around at the exit of every turn? By simply using the eccentric settings as per the manual, my front belt is indeed more loose than the rear....
It's probably not only that but every little thing helps
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when you built the steering in the new 417x, did it feel a little loose?

built mine as per manual (0.7 + 0.1 shim) between steering arm and steering bridge and noticed when home its a bit wobbly. Cant pick reason why, tried to add some extra shims to get rid of it, but no luck
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Old 07-08-2012, 11:11 AM
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My 417 has become squeaky when turning.. I have stripped it down, changed the diffs etc. I checked the front bearings (one was broken so has been replaced). However the car is still making the noise when I turn..

No other set-up change (I run foam, so gear diffs with 3k in the front and 2k in the rear).

The noise is definitely coming from the front once it steers..

Any ideas?

Oh and Mingon.. the Steering bar is a bit sloppy.. its my least favourite feature of the car.
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are you using the CVD's in the front or DCJ's?
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