Tamiya TRF417
#2041
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Hi to all. Help me choose a gear diff! I have a sakura gear diff v1, but the gears inside the differential wear quickly, and o-rings tight, so the differential works tight even with a small value of density!
Is sakura diff V2 is better than V1 ? Or better use the tamyia gear diff v2?
Is sakura diff V2 is better than V1 ? Or better use the tamyia gear diff v2?
#2042
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Use the Tamiya V2 diff.
Shim on both sides with 3 shims and use the supplied oil.
After running in it is smooth as butter.
regards Roy
Shim on both sides with 3 shims and use the supplied oil.
After running in it is smooth as butter.
regards Roy
Hi to all. Help me choose a gear diff! I have a sakura gear diff v1, but the gears inside the differential wear quickly, and o-rings tight, so the differential works tight even with a small value of density!
Is sakura diff V2 is better than V1 ? Or better use the tamyia gear diff v2?
Is sakura diff V2 is better than V1 ? Or better use the tamyia gear diff v2?
#2043
Any idea yet on an upgrade pack ie: top & bottom deck & towers and motor mount?
Will they be sold seperate from the complete car?
Will they be sold seperate from the complete car?
#2045
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I agree that Tamiya most likely won't offer an 'upgrade package'. That being said, Tamiya will offer each part/component individually. This is supported by the fact that every part for a TRF417 is currently available for sale. You'll just have to determine if the total cost (will be high) of purchasing the items individually is worth it.
#2046
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is that going to be a chassis for carpet..
#2047
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I agree that Tamiya most likely won't offer an 'upgrade package'. That being said, Tamiya will offer each part/component individually. This is supported by the fact that every part for a TRF417 is currently available for sale. You'll just have to determine if the total cost (will be high) of purchasing the items individually is worth it.
The mods just make the car more tuneable, and easier to adapt to different circuits. If you have sorted the car for your own track you won't go quicker unless you need even more flex than the cut mount, split blocks and cut top deck already give you.
#2048
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Truth is though, not many of the tweaks are essential maybe the bottom plate if you want more flex and have already cut the motor mount and top deck.
The mods just make the car more tuneable, and easier to adapt to different circuits. If you have sorted the car for your own track you won't go quicker unless you need even more flex than the cut mount, split blocks and cut top deck already give you.
The mods just make the car more tuneable, and easier to adapt to different circuits. If you have sorted the car for your own track you won't go quicker unless you need even more flex than the cut mount, split blocks and cut top deck already give you.
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So can some body tell me if the new trf417x is going to be for carpet with the new changes
#2050
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Truth is though, not many of the tweaks are essential maybe the bottom plate if you want more flex and have already cut the motor mount and top deck.
The mods just make the car more tuneable, and easier to adapt to different circuits. If you have sorted the car for your own track you won't go quicker unless you need even more flex than the cut mount, split blocks and cut top deck already give you.
The mods just make the car more tuneable, and easier to adapt to different circuits. If you have sorted the car for your own track you won't go quicker unless you need even more flex than the cut mount, split blocks and cut top deck already give you.
I know Jilles and the gang all used the "flexy" options at the Euro's a while back, and that was traction rolling grip levels.
It maybe that carpet results in a different effect on the grip level, where less flex helps to "un-bind" the car, but tbh I still reckon a X will be just as good on the rug... maybe more tricky to drive, but faster.
HiH
Ed
#2051
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I haven't read or heard of the 417X or any of the revised parts as being designed specifically for carpet. In a traditional sense carpet specific chassis are thicker resulting in a stiffer car. I don't believe the revised chassis is thicker and/or stiffer. As Ed and others have mentioned the new chassis and motor mount provides more flex. Since I've never run TC on carpet I don't know if that is a good or bad thing. Good news is a new carpet track opened up so I'll have all winter to figure it out.
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Nice we just had a new track open for us race at. My TRF417 was way out to lunch. it was so bad I got sea sick...
#2053
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= for the 417 not working so well
I'm going to run both cars when I get the X to see what works better. For me it's about getting the car easier to drive which results in faster and consistent lap times.
I'll catch up with you at Jackson come Spring/Summer. The X should be right at home there.
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yeah can you say way out to lunch with it.. I almost picked up a tc6
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