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Old 07-24-2010, 01:52 PM   #31
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Totally into the "C" style cars.
I would jump right into these cars if local racers wanted to run them.
Welcome home I'm doing all I can to start this series again.
Tomorrow I'll be at WCRC track from 10:00 practicing laps testing the 21.5 with new tiers and a 21 pinion (have not check the roll out on this combination yet)



Like I said I did the flowing alterations:
1. open up the entrance of the battery bay so it can hold a LIPO racing brick (3800 orion pack) and modified the motor holder to fit larger pinions.
2. Run all the cables on the top part through the battery/ shock holder and instead of tying them down, I run them inside heat shrinks so the rear still swings freely from side to side.
3. Yes, replaced all plastic and metal round crap with real ball bearings .
4. Added shims in the front uprights.

Rest is stock, check the photos... Runs super!

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Old 07-24-2010, 04:41 PM   #32
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Just throwing this out there since we're on page 2 of the thread...

If you could design a Group C car from the ground up... what should it look like?

Typical 2wd pan car?

Stranahan Style pan car?
http://site.mawebcenters.com/stranah...Front_View.JPG

Tamiya F103 with a wider chassis plate?

Tamiya F103GT style car that uses TC wheels/tires?

Other ideas...

I would run wgt tires with 2s 21.5 or 25.5 open speedo.
Any pan car that works with a stick pack (are there any??) so it stays cheap.
A set of body/wing rules ( like we have in vta) and have at it.
Cheap fast cars that look bas ass.
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Old 07-24-2010, 04:49 PM   #33
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CRC Gen X10 works with stickpack, I run 2s lipo in mine with 13.5T motor.
WGT can work as Group C, just get the bodies for it.
Or am i way off now?

By the way. The reason 'real' Group C was cancelled was because the cars where basiclly F1 machines with more power and downforce, therefore they became more expensive and faster than their F1 counterparts. The FIA's premier series is/was F1 and Group C had no place...
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Hi, The Tamiya C tub cars and the F102 formula cars have a centered steering servo with different length tie rods. Does this have any adverse effect on steering? Thanks,Don
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Or am i way off now?
You can be as off as you want to be. Group C is a class that doesn't really exist or have a home.... we're just a bunch of fans speculating on what we'd like to see.

I wouldn't mind seeing something similar to the F201 but 2wd. Real race cars have four-wheel independent suspension, why not do the same for a Group C class if you had to redesign it.

However, old school t-bar pan cars with Dynamic Strut front ends are about as simple as they come. Build one out of fiberglass isntead of carbon fiber and i'm pretty sure it'd be inexpensive as well. Add one of the those Mini 7.4v Lipos down one side of the t-bar, electronics down the other side and you're good to go.

As for power, better minds than mine can figure that out. I'm not a big fan of the adjustable timing ESCs, but almost everyone has one these days. Group C probably isn't the best idea for newbies so open ESC and 21.5 might be the best way to go. Or 25.5 for smaller indoor carpet tracks. Once again, i'm not the guy to figure that out.
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Hi, The Tamiya C tub cars and the F102 formula cars have a centered steering servo with different length tie rods. Does this have any adverse effect on steering? Thanks,Don
No. The Tamiya C steers fine. I was at the track today testing out a new set up (brushless 21.5 64 pitch gear) and the car was Fast! Corners as if on glue.

Scumi "rubing" on C9 and C11 at Le Mans...
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Old 07-27-2010, 05:51 PM   #37
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Hey buddy first you have to warm up the brakes!
This is the one Tamiya kit I wish I had.
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Group C Awesome battle between Gary Pearson in the Jag, and David Hart in the Porsche
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i have the ReRe Jag sittin in a box, total shelf queen, if some1 made me an offer i'd let em have it. nowhere to display it these days in new house.

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Heres a little something hoping it spikes up some enthusiasm (it sort of died or not?)


Yesyterday I was practicing at West Cost RC and they have a C for sale (Finish Sabuer C11), asking $100 but I'm sure you can knock out at least $10

Somebody step up and grab the car so we can race them there.

Here are some photos of my car, I put the RR 23T Tamiya Super Stock and was reaching 31 MPH on the straight (they had the radar on) Prety cool!

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HeliYogi, what tyres did you use?

I have a Stopped Jag, becaused I can't find new sponge tyres.
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HeliYogi, what tyres did you use?

I have a Stopped Jag, becaused I can't find new sponge tyres.
Have you tried rc-mart or jr-rc (Ebay), I bought a heap of rc-mart awhile back.
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HeliYogi, what tires did you use?
I have a Stopped Jag, becaused I can't find new sponge tyres.
I used stock tiers. Let's get that Jag moving, foams are in stock at Tamiya USA (I have two new pairs with rims in the garage ) I Get most parts for the C chassis, directly from Tamiya USA
A bit pricier but deliver fast and you can always count on good service.
https://www.tamiyausa.com/product/rc...s&kit_id=58351
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RC RD Fnt 4428 Sponge Tire Set - 2pcs Fits Group C Cars
RC RD Rr 4445 Sponge Tire Set - 2pcs

Taman advice is rigth on, when something is not found just search by part number or "Tamiya group C" in e bay
Here are the Jags rims:
http://cgi.ebay.com/SP404-Tamiya-RD-...1#ht_500wt_945

See you at the track?

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Finally I found the tyres on eBay.

I was searching the tyres by the part number of the manual, so no results.

The Jaguar will restart in a pair of weeks!!!
Also, I have the Mazda 787B Body
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Finally I found the tyres on eBay.

I was searching the tyres by the part number of the manual, so no results.

The Jaguar will restart in a pair of weeks!!!
Also, I have the Mazda 787B Body
I have a 787b to but in my Mini Z. Two weeks ago the had on e bay a Nissan R91 C body set, around $150 shipped, Oh man it was hard to let that one go

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The Tamiya Group C Cars were great fun to race. With Lipo and silver can 24 minutes is very possible. Maybe another race for them? I hope to be able to join the F-1's in January for a race @ TQ's. Perhaps we could get something together? Andy
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