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Old 05-28-2004, 05:38 PM   #31
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From my experiences i have turned a 20,000, 57 power on a fantom dyno into a 22,500, 62 power just by giving it some TLC and taking my time messing with it.
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For some who dont access to a lathe or skill tuning motors, how could they ever know if they could turn an otherwise "dud" motor into a screamer.I had bought 5 monster from a motor company that dumps thier "duds" on the Ebay.After some tweaking,the motors where both used to get me into the A at my last Roar regional on carpet in both 12th scale and Sedan.Both motors were ballistic.Still excellent club racing motors also. Just took a little massaging.

Some people want others to feel and think the way they do.Some here feel Monsters are horrible stock motors that magnets fall out and comms burn up.I guess the thousands of others that love this motor and know what to do with them are wrong. Same with some people that think oneways suck....Oh boy,I better stop now.
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i think the best ive had was 24,500 rpm .110 torque er something like that on my Fantom...the power number on my dyno is eight or so lower then trinitys and it read 61.5...that was ROAR legal...if you wanna talk illegal now i got a much higher one then that but never use it
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Old 05-28-2004, 06:42 PM   #34
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I guess thats the best thing to do, might give it a try and see how i go. Any one know where i can find a good guide on motor preperation and tuning?

You see ppl get confused with all the fuss, if they weren't braggin that it does magic etc.. then less experienced guys wont get muddled up with all the variety of the same motors in the market.
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For some who dont access to a lathe or skill tuning motors, how could they ever know if they could turn an otherwise "dud" motor into a screamer.I had bought 5 monster from a motor company that dumps thier "duds" on the Ebay.After some tweaking,the motors where both used to get me into the A at my last Roar regional on carpet in both 12th scale and Sedan.Both motors were ballistic.Still excellent club racing motors also. Just took a little massaging.

Some people want others to feel and think the way they do.Some here feel Monsters are horrible stock motors that magnets fall out and comms burn up.I guess the thousands of others that love this motor and know what to do with them are wrong. Same with some people that think oneways suck....Oh boy,I better stop now.
Hicks, I DO have acess to a lathe & have read many articles about tuning these things....I recently rebuilt my monster with some 767's and while it sounded louded THE RPM WENT FROM 21,900 to 20,300...WTF? I thought tuning would make it better. From these dyno readouts AND track experience I stand by what I say "once a dud, always a dud"....until someone can get my peticular motor to turn a decent 22,500 @ 60W I stand by my opinion.

And I think your a bit biased about the one-way issue too...You act like you'd die if one-ways were banned from competition. I admit I'm biased but if you'd keep it shut if I tell someone I don't like the one-way maybe I wouldn't be so harsh

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Black Kat ill sell you a screamer...but i only sell Monster stocks
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Old 05-28-2004, 07:08 PM   #37
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I'll give you $8 in quarters for it

I'm not trying to say all Monster's suck...but mine do and if you do go with a Monster this is what could happen & I already wasted my money...
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umm your a few quarters short buddy...save up 120 more quarters andyou got yourself a deal and ill pay shipping....
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Thats a lot of quarters......
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Hicks, I DO have acess to a lathe & have read many articles about tuning these things....I recently rebuilt my monster with some 767's and while it sounded louded THE RPM WENT FROM 21,900 to 20,300...WTF? I thought tuning would make it better. From these dyno readouts AND track experience I stand by what I say "once a dud, always a dud"....until someone can get my peticular motor to turn a decent 22,500 @ 60W I stand by my opinion.

And I think your a bit biased about the one-way issue too...You act like you'd die if one-ways were banned from competition. I admit I'm biased but if you'd keep it shut if I tell someone I don't like the one-way maybe I wouldn't be so harsh
If you ever see me at a race give me your "dud" motor and i'll do my best to make it fast.

BTW, the best monster I have (TQ in sedan at the California carpet champs and TQ and first in 12th scale northwest carpet champs) is one that someone else gave me because he overheated it and thought it was too slow. What dyno numbers does it pull? I don't know, and don't need to concern myself with it.

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3000 pennies more then?
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If you ever see me at a race give me your "dud" motor and i'll do my best to make it fast.

BTW, the best monster I have (TQ in sedan at the California carpet champs and TQ and first in 12th scale northwest carpet champs) is one that someone else gave me because he overheated it and thought it was too slow. What dyno numbers does it pull? I don't know, and don't need to concern myself with it.

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Heh, Interesting...

Lets hope if it pulls really bad numbers it gets a load of torque

Could it have anything to do with batteries? I use un-matched GP3300's chargeded @6.5A (lot of the locals like 8.5 for stock)
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Heh, Interesting...

Lets hope if it pulls really bad numbers it gets a load of torque

Could it have anything to do with batteries? I use un-matched GP3300's chargeded @6.5A (lot of the locals like 8.5 for stock)
I charge at 6.0A so I don't think so. To echo what others are saying, going fast in stock has a lot more with your setup and how you drive than how many amps you charge at or how many watts your motor puts out.

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what up james,

i have learned to use the ignore user function on this forum.works great.
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