I don't care how good the kit is the worst sin in RC racing is. . . .
#16

Originally posted by psbarger
If you can spend $300 on a high level kit you can spend $20-40 on the RIGHT tires for your track. My X-Ray FK didn't come with tires, and it didn't matter in the slightest to me. I run on carpet, so if the kit came with rubber tires it would have wasted my money because I'd never use them and still had to pay for them.
If you want a kit to bash with why would you pay the premium for a high end kit designed to race with?
If you can spend $300 on a high level kit you can spend $20-40 on the RIGHT tires for your track. My X-Ray FK didn't come with tires, and it didn't matter in the slightest to me. I run on carpet, so if the kit came with rubber tires it would have wasted my money because I'd never use them and still had to pay for them.
If you want a kit to bash with why would you pay the premium for a high end kit designed to race with?
#17

Originally posted by Mabuchi540
Exactly why I crossed the Xray factory kit off the list. If I'm spending $700 Nz dollars on one car kit it better have tires, no tires no Xray.
Exactly why I crossed the Xray factory kit off the list. If I'm spending $700 Nz dollars on one car kit it better have tires, no tires no Xray.
#18
Tech Adept

You might have only joined a few weeks ago, but you sure do post enough to at least know some of the featues on this site. (14+ each day!!!)
Anyway, I agree and disagree. It would be nice to get the car rolling right away. However, you could buy tires when you buy the kit and still get it going right away and those tires could be better suited to the conditions you are running on, so in the end, it's probably just as good that they do not give you tires.
Anyway, I agree and disagree. It would be nice to get the car rolling right away. However, you could buy tires when you buy the kit and still get it going right away and those tires could be better suited to the conditions you are running on, so in the end, it's probably just as good that they do not give you tires.
Last edited by aviaar; 06-06-2004 at 12:34 PM.
#19

Originally posted by Neil Rabara
If you spend that amount of money, you better make sure it's a ready to run. Otherwise you are in the wrong hobby. Tires and body are all subject to change and replacement, but the car isn't. psbarger is right, if you spend that amount of money, don't be cheap and get the tires for your track and racing level.
If you spend that amount of money, you better make sure it's a ready to run. Otherwise you are in the wrong hobby. Tires and body are all subject to change and replacement, but the car isn't. psbarger is right, if you spend that amount of money, don't be cheap and get the tires for your track and racing level.
#21

1) if you are new u should not buy a pro kit, u should started with rtr or sport kit they come everything u need and that why they hv rtr, sport or pro kit.
2) for pro racer, for sure 101% of them will not used the kit tyre since we all (pro's) knows that those are useless for either practise or racing. and the most important is that we don't want paying higher/extra price for a useless item in the kit, better take them off from the tag
3) every hobbies are expensive, u won't expectif u buy a golf set come wit a golf ball, a new car come wit full tank of petrol, a new house come wit furniture or etc.
4) paying
a) Nz$700 kit w/o tire
b) Nz$750 kit with tire or
c) Nz$700 kit w/o tire plus Nz$50 set of selectable choice tyre
which one? you choose.
those ppl are not stupid they won't removed the tyre b'cos saving cost. they don't include it, it's to reduced the selling price marketing. marketing.
2) for pro racer, for sure 101% of them will not used the kit tyre since we all (pro's) knows that those are useless for either practise or racing. and the most important is that we don't want paying higher/extra price for a useless item in the kit, better take them off from the tag
3) every hobbies are expensive, u won't expectif u buy a golf set come wit a golf ball, a new car come wit full tank of petrol, a new house come wit furniture or etc.
4) paying
a) Nz$700 kit w/o tire
b) Nz$750 kit with tire or
c) Nz$700 kit w/o tire plus Nz$50 set of selectable choice tyre
which one? you choose.
those ppl are not stupid they won't removed the tyre b'cos saving cost. they don't include it, it's to reduced the selling price marketing. marketing.
#22

ACtually it does sound kind of odd..to put that much time and effort into researchign which kit will yield the ultimate performance..only to let something as minor as a consumable(tires) help determine the outcome...
Tires are part of the everyday operating cost of racing...they get used up..just like nitro fuel...
Tires cost needs to be factored into the equation of how much you want to spend..and if adding tires to the Xray kit pushes you out of budget..then so be it...but you should probably be buying several sets ofo tires regardless of which kit you purchase. Make sure you talk to someone first though to determine the proper compounds for the track(s) you'll be racing.
Tires are part of the everyday operating cost of racing...they get used up..just like nitro fuel...
Tires cost needs to be factored into the equation of how much you want to spend..and if adding tires to the Xray kit pushes you out of budget..then so be it...but you should probably be buying several sets ofo tires regardless of which kit you purchase. Make sure you talk to someone first though to determine the proper compounds for the track(s) you'll be racing.
#23

if your LHS charged too high or doesn't give the right information like what u need and what the best for u then find a better shop. this doen't meant the product is not good
#24

Ok ok so I'm a tight arse when it comes to money but in the same light I wouldn't buy a washing machine unless they included at least one packet of washing powder or if it was a real car one tank of gas when I drive it away.
#25

washing machine wit washing powder what about power and water?
#26

Originally posted by Windsorguy99
ACtually it does sound kind of odd..to put that much time and effort into researchign which kit will yield the ultimate performance..only to let something as minor as a consumable(tires) help determine the outcome...
Tires are part of the everyday operating cost of racing...they get used up..just like nitro fuel...
Tires cost needs to be factored into the equation of how much you want to spend..and if adding tires to the Xray kit pushes you out of budget..then so be it...but you should probably be buying several sets ofo tires regardless of which kit you purchase. Make sure you talk to someone first though to determine the proper compounds for the track(s) you'll be racing.
ACtually it does sound kind of odd..to put that much time and effort into researchign which kit will yield the ultimate performance..only to let something as minor as a consumable(tires) help determine the outcome...
Tires are part of the everyday operating cost of racing...they get used up..just like nitro fuel...
Tires cost needs to be factored into the equation of how much you want to spend..and if adding tires to the Xray kit pushes you out of budget..then so be it...but you should probably be buying several sets ofo tires regardless of which kit you purchase. Make sure you talk to someone first though to determine the proper compounds for the track(s) you'll be racing.
#27

yes, RTR ready to run
#28

Originally posted by Mabuchi540
I'll not argue with any of that but to help make up my mind I had to have a deciding factor and that was it basically. "Could I get it rolling out of the box".
I'll not argue with any of that but to help make up my mind I had to have a deciding factor and that was it basically. "Could I get it rolling out of the box".
#29

Originally posted by rcsabah
yes, RTR ready to run
yes, RTR ready to run
#30

Originally posted by AWOLsoldier
When you order the kit, order a set of tires with it. There you go, you have everything you need. Why would you let a set of tires ruin your decision towards one car or another?
When you order the kit, order a set of tires with it. There you go, you have everything you need. Why would you let a set of tires ruin your decision towards one car or another?