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USIC USGT 2016 Motor and Chassis list in qualifing order

TQ A.F. TSR A800
2nd D.J. TeamPowers A800
3rd B.S. TSR A800
4th M.L. TSR A800
5th M.F TeamPowers A800
6th D.J TSR Destiny
7th J.W. Trinity Monster '17 Xray
8th C.V TSR Destiny
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Old 03-06-2019, 09:19 PM
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Default 2020 LeMans rule change

With LMP car being eliminated from the 24 hrs of LeMans after this year, might be a good time to prepare and rewrite the GT body List with a 1 year notice.

What if we split USGT into 2 classes? There is always a war going on between the "win at all cost" crowd vs the scale crowd. I say give them what they want, scale guys run the GT class (has to be a real car, real liveries, run at LeMans, maybe even 25.5). Performance's oriented racers can keep their body of the week (that are not really GT cars but more like hypercars) such as the pzero, R-tek, Venom and other super/hypercars.

Simplest way to differentiate is what class do they run at Lemans, Sebring or similar endurance races. Vette, viper, 911, Aston Martin are all true GT cars. Pagani, McLaren Saleen are super/hypercars.

FYI Hypercars will replace LMP prototypes in 2020 so this would be the perfect opportunity to follow suit in RC. A class for scale guys (GT). & Hypercars for the performance crowd. Could this work with a 1 year notice to prepare racers and manufactuers? Thoughts?
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Originally Posted by dman18t
With LMP car being eliminated from the 24 hrs of LeMans after this year, might be a good time to prepare and rewrite the GT body List with a 1 year notice.

What if we split USGT into 2 classes? There is always a war going on between the "win at all cost" crowd vs the scale crowd. I say give them what they want, scale guys run the GT class (has to be a real car, real liveries, run at LeMans, maybe even 25.5). Performance's oriented racers can keep their body of the week (that are not really GT cars but more like hypercars) such as the pzero, R-tek, Venom and other super/hypercars.

Simplest way to differentiate is what class do they run at Lemans, Sebring or similar endurance races. Vette, viper, 911, Aston Martin are all true GT cars. Pagani, McLaren Saleen are super/hypercars.

FYI Hypercars will replace LMP prototypes in 2020 so this would be the perfect opportunity to follow suit in RC. A class for scale guys (GT). & Hypercars for the performance crowd. Could this work with a 1 year notice to prepare racers and manufactuers? Thoughts?
Yeah, i think that was already created. The 2 classes are called 21.5 Touring and USGT.

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Originally Posted by Nerobro
Lets not screw around here. "Real paint" doesn't matter. And if you need examples of extravagant paint, look up the BMW and Porsche art cars. Give me high effort paint jobs. Spraybomb flouro green, yellow, and orange is boring, lazy, and if I can see through your paint, you're either lazy or far to concerned about two grams. That person put effort into their paint, that's awesome.

Even my single "color" car for USGT, actually has two colors on it, and masking. And then a couple hours of decals.
One off art cars show up for one race usually but feel free to compare apples to golf balls. Oh and yes, real paint does matter.
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Originally Posted by KINGZJ
they really don't last very long. They start to swell up about 10 to 16 runs on them and by 20 runs their really bad. What happens is you start chasing your setup compensating for the tires. Sure you can keep running them and for typical club days you'll get by but you'd be faster with newer ones. I usually use one new set per race day and save them for practice days and once they swell they go in the trash.
...... and, they end up like this one .....
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Originally Posted by egalsim
Yeah, i think that was already created. The 2 classes are called 21.5 Touring and USGT.
Answered it yourself, turn TC 21.5 into a place for DP and hyper car bodies and let the scale guys have USGT.

That solves the entire constant complaint t about bodies issue for good.
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The absolute last thing onroad needs is another class. the classes are way to diluted already.
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Old 03-07-2019, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by mracer1
...... and, they end up like this one .....
Looks like about 2 laps past perfect lol
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Originally Posted by KINGZJ
The absolute last thing onroad needs is another class. the classes are way to diluted already.
Kinda missing my point to stop the constant body argument. 21.5 TC shouldn't even be a thing. Not add another class, let The guys who want to run non scale bodies run in TC, keep USGT scale was the point.

While we are at it, TC should only be 2 classes, mod open and spec 17.5. Eliminate the rest of TC classes?
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Man, I am with you on this.VTA identififies 25.5. "GT" bodies identify 21.5. Mini bodies Identify 21.5 FT. This leave "just" two classes for TC. And it's not hard to see the difference between 17.5 and Mod. :-)
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Usgt has gotten to the point it's at and there is no going back.. I have accepted it. You can paint your body to look scale, use a scale body, use any legal Usgt body in one color or multi it doesn't matter. It's a spec class with a spec tire.. cruise your 21.5 around the track or don't? It's what you make of it.

It's been a couple months since I've raced mine, been enjoying the double time spent on my stock car At this point Id rather race a box stock TT Series with a scale body
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Originally Posted by DaSilva3525
Usgt has gotten to the point it's at and there is no going back.. I have accepted it. You can paint your body to look scale, use a scale body, use any legal Usgt body in one color or multi it doesn't matter. It's a spec class with a spec tire.. cruise your 21.5 around the track or don't? It's what you make of it.

It's been a couple months since I've raced mine, been enjoying the double time spent on my stock car At this point Id rather race a box stock TT Series with a scale body
No going back? Sure we can, with a 2020 notice date we can re set the chess board.

Eliminate duplicate classes, new body list, keep the spec tire. Easy, just takes the "WILL" to do so. Rob K or Kevin K want to chime in?
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Originally Posted by KINGZJ
The absolute last thing onroad needs is another class. the classes are way to diluted already.
TC stock disappeared already, only super stock 17.5 and Usgt are left at the club level. Usgt needs to have stricter body legality rules, that's all, and probably needs to enforce a body diversity rule(not more than three of the same body per main) , something like no unrealistic hyper car bodies for top seven TQ racers of every main, etc.....Just something to mix things up a bit and not end up with the EXOGT Class at every event....That will also force some to get a second(realistic) body....
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I can see USGT as a class going by the wayside in the not too distant future.
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