5661LikesUSGT
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05-13-2019, 04:44 PM
#8941
Originally Posted by trigger
LOL! The tires are fine! Don't blame the tires for your ill handling cars. It's the same for everybody that follows the rules.
Hey, lets have a discussion about making the hobby better! NO, your car is shit and your opinion is shit. Now lets go back to comparing paint jobs and unapproved bodies!!!
Wayne
05-13-2019, 05:31 PM
#8943
Tech Master
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Don't be so sensitive. Changing tires for USGT over night doesn't seem logical. There are times I don't cope with the tires well, wether it be track conditions, ambient temps, etc. I don't just write off the tires. I Make minute adjustments till I'm happy and drive. Thats it. Win or lose, I at least know that everyone was competing on the same tires and lets me know where I am in the pecking order.
Last edited by trigger; 05-13-2019 at 05:43 PM.
05-13-2019, 06:14 PM
#8945
Originally Posted by flyingm
Living at 7,000 feet means we have a short racing season in Flagstaff, Arizona. It was 7 months til we had our first practice race last weekend. Our Summer Point Series starts in June, so I'm just doing some painting. McAllister Racing C5 Corvette and MX-Stang.....Time to get racing!!!
05-13-2019, 06:19 PM
#8946
Thanks Beemerfan. The C5 is 190mm. those ar 3MM offset wheels in the photos.
05-13-2019, 07:47 PM
#8947
Tech Master
Originally Posted by trigger
LOL! The tires are fine! Don't blame the tires for your ill handling cars. It's the same for everybody that follows the rules.
That does make it hard for a beginner to start out in USGT.
05-13-2019, 08:17 PM
#8949
Originally Posted by Razathorn
Honestly, doing 25.5 touring car and USGT, 25.5 TC is almost as fast.. like within 5%... but, the USGT car frustratingly "wanders off" and "becomes tippy" for me with tire age as they balloon up. I've been very frustrated with it on black carpet, but I've got it down now, and unfortunately, my view is USGT is actually harder than 25.5 TC class, and I have to do very little to my TC other than sauce the tires and put it on the track. With USGT, I've got my starting setup, and now a setup I slowly migrate to as the tires age and the car starts to tip, and no amount of CA glue on the sidewalls helps. It's a shit tire, and the motors got super fast, and that's why people have been doing 25.5 TC at my track.
I run both. At our track, in 21.5 and 25.5 TC, we all run the same tire, so we effectively have a spec tire, the motors are now governed by minimum resistance, so now USGT is actually more work. VTA is no more here, essentially replaced by traxxas 4-tec racing.
IMHO, USGT should pick a new spec tire. I haven't yet received a set of premount tires that didn't have at least one wheel with a +/- 1 degree camber wobble, and when I grab some throttle with the car in my hand, the body sounds like it's going to tear itself apart from the vibrations. The 4-tec 2.0 traxxas cars have better premount tire consistency and run-out. It's actually kinda sad.
Wayne
I run both. At our track, in 21.5 and 25.5 TC, we all run the same tire, so we effectively have a spec tire, the motors are now governed by minimum resistance, so now USGT is actually more work. VTA is no more here, essentially replaced by traxxas 4-tec racing.
IMHO, USGT should pick a new spec tire. I haven't yet received a set of premount tires that didn't have at least one wheel with a +/- 1 degree camber wobble, and when I grab some throttle with the car in my hand, the body sounds like it's going to tear itself apart from the vibrations. The 4-tec 2.0 traxxas cars have better premount tire consistency and run-out. It's actually kinda sad.
Wayne
They take a solid beating to break.. unlike the gravity ones... I broke one while breaking the tire in... wasnt to happy that day.
05-14-2019, 06:02 AM
#8950
Originally Posted by Razathorn
Honestly, doing 25.5 touring car and USGT, 25.5 TC is almost as fast.. like within 5%... but, the USGT car frustratingly "wanders off" and "becomes tippy" for me with tire age as they balloon up. I've been very frustrated with it on black carpet, but I've got it down now, and unfortunately, my view is USGT is actually harder than 25.5 TC class, and I have to do very little to my TC other than sauce the tires and put it on the track. With USGT, I've got my starting setup, and now a setup I slowly migrate to as the tires age and the car starts to tip, and no amount of CA glue on the sidewalls helps. It's a shit tire, and the motors got super fast, and that's why people have been doing 25.5 TC at my track.
I run both. At our track, in 21.5 and 25.5 TC, we all run the same tire, so we effectively have a spec tire, the motors are now governed by minimum resistance, so now USGT is actually more work. VTA is no more here, essentially replaced by traxxas 4-tec racing.
IMHO, USGT should pick a new spec tire. I haven't yet received a set of premount tires that didn't have at least one wheel with a +/- 1 degree camber wobble, and when I grab some throttle with the car in my hand, the body sounds like it's going to tear itself apart from the vibrations. The 4-tec 2.0 traxxas cars have better premount tire consistency and run-out. It's actually kinda sad.
Wayne
I run both. At our track, in 21.5 and 25.5 TC, we all run the same tire, so we effectively have a spec tire, the motors are now governed by minimum resistance, so now USGT is actually more work. VTA is no more here, essentially replaced by traxxas 4-tec racing.
IMHO, USGT should pick a new spec tire. I haven't yet received a set of premount tires that didn't have at least one wheel with a +/- 1 degree camber wobble, and when I grab some throttle with the car in my hand, the body sounds like it's going to tear itself apart from the vibrations. The 4-tec 2.0 traxxas cars have better premount tire consistency and run-out. It's actually kinda sad.
Wayne
05-14-2019, 06:25 AM
#8951
Originally Posted by SpidarX
I actually think the usgt tires are the best thing about the class. The tires last a long time and they get more grippy with wear. What tc tire gets better the more you run them?
Man I wish my usgt tires lasted longer. Once they start to swell (usually 10-15 runs) they go to crap. Maybe its a black carpet thing its the only surface I have used them on.
05-14-2019, 08:24 AM
#8952
Are you getting 15 runs total or 15 race days? 15 days is a long lasting tire. 15 runs? My tires don’t get good until 15 runs. That’s barely enough to get the mold seem off (even after sanding it)
What is your saucing routine and cleaning routine? There may be something there causing premature breakdown.
What is your saucing routine and cleaning routine? There may be something there causing premature breakdown.
05-14-2019, 10:34 AM
#8954
Originally Posted by NutDriver
I would like to try Can Am's GT rules. I may get a couple just to "test the waters" at the local club to see if others are interested. Has anyone here run an event under Can Am GT rules?
Motors run well at that FDR.. I have maybe .1 to .2 fade after 6 minutes and come off at room temp with a fan.
Speeds are very similar.. It's a matter of getting your chassis to work and drive consistent!
05-14-2019, 12:41 PM
#8955
On our track, the size makes 21.5 effectively mod. Doesn't matter who's 21.5 is faster, they blip down the straight for only a short period of time, and the infield is the great equalizer.
