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fat500 05-10-2019 06:51 PM

tks:nod: wing is the tamiya light weight racing wing set #54457 type A .

massenb203 05-11-2019 09:45 AM

My P- Zero body is still hanging in there.https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rct...0c52be8ef.jpeg

Still going strong.

fat500 05-12-2019 11:06 AM

So the J zero feels almost the same as my tamiya lite wt. NSX. very nimble and kinda neutral feel . I like it. Nice to have another body option;) Got lots of complements:D

flyingm 05-12-2019 02:30 PM

Just paintin'
 
Living at 7,000 feet means we have a short racing season in Flagstaff, Arizona. It was 7 months til we had our first practice race last weekend. Our Summer Point Series starts in June, so I'm just doing some painting. McAllister Racing C5 Corvette and MX-Stang.....Time to get racing!!!https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rct...3651667546.jpg
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Bry195 05-12-2019 08:19 PM

im a new racer and i like usgt. im not trying to discourage participation.

as a new racer one of my greatest challenges are in getting the car setup right. usgt exacerbates this a little. if i’m racing fast guys and the car isn’t acting right i can change tire compounds in tc and a few things to control weight and my car gets allot faster. i can get the feel of the car roughly where i want it with a compound change.

in usgt i really have to work on all the small chassis changes to get or lose traction to adjust the car feel. i know i need to learn all the tricks but its very different from car to car so i cant get allot of help. having reference tires are great but it really forces you to know a chassis to a higher level. i’ll get it but changing tires is allot easier than changing everything but tires.

jneezie3000 05-12-2019 09:32 PM


Originally Posted by team green (Post 15447364)


What rear wing are you using?

That would be the Tamiya racing type A wing.

DARKSIDE 05-12-2019 10:41 PM

Most races I've attended have a spec TC tire... so imo I dont think it's a big difference

trigger 05-12-2019 11:01 PM


Originally Posted by Bry195 (Post 15448417)
im a new racer and i like usgt. im not trying to discourage participation.

as a new racer one of my greatest challenges are in getting the car setup right. usgt exacerbates this a little. if i’m racing fast guys and the car isn’t acting right i can change tire compounds in tc and a few things to control weight and my car gets allot faster. i can get the feel of the car roughly where i want it with a compound change.

in usgt i really have to work on all the small chassis changes to get or lose traction to adjust the car feel. i know i need to learn all the tricks but its very different from car to car so i cant get allot of help. having reference tires are great but it really forces you to know a chassis to a higher level. i’ll get it but changing tires is allot easier than changing everything but tires.

USGT is meant to be a fun easy class but being on a spec tire(non belted and hard compound), chassis tuning is a bit more critical to extract pace out of these tires. 21.5 is very fast now a days and I find USGT laps times about .4-.6 seconds slower than 17.5 blinky . Changing compounds isn't an option but will allow you to tune your chassis to make pace and try to make it to the front of the field. Takes some time depending on tuning abilities but persistence can pay off.

Dan 05-13-2019 05:24 AM

USGT is still fun for me, but yes, quite a bit faster than 5 years ago when I first ran it. The 21.5 motors these days are fassssst!

VTA is an enjoyable speed right now, I thought it was too slow ~6 years ago.

Troy Carter 05-13-2019 11:15 AM


Originally Posted by Dan (Post 15448512)
USGT is still fun for me, but yes, quite a bit faster than 5 years ago when I first ran it. The 21.5 motors these days are fassssst!

VTA is an enjoyable speed right now, I thought it was too slow ~6 years ago.

I think USGT with a spec motor is what you are looking for. The Reedy or HW FT motors look nice for that and are a definite step down in performance from the modern crop of motors.

Dan 05-13-2019 11:39 AM

I'm fine with the current rule set. I just stopped running 17.5 sedan for a while since it got way too fast for me.

Razathorn 05-13-2019 01:52 PM

Honestly, doing 25.5 touring car and USGT, 25.5 TC is almost as fast.. like within 5%... but, the USGT car frustratingly "wanders off" and "becomes tippy" for me with tire age as they balloon up. I've been very frustrated with it on black carpet, but I've got it down now, and unfortunately, my view is USGT is actually harder than 25.5 TC class, and I have to do very little to my TC other than sauce the tires and put it on the track. With USGT, I've got my starting setup, and now a setup I slowly migrate to as the tires age and the car starts to tip, and no amount of CA glue on the sidewalls helps. It's a shit tire, and the motors got super fast, and that's why people have been doing 25.5 TC at my track.

I run both. At our track, in 21.5 and 25.5 TC, we all run the same tire, so we effectively have a spec tire, the motors are now governed by minimum resistance, so now USGT is actually more work. VTA is no more here, essentially replaced by traxxas 4-tec racing.

IMHO, USGT should pick a new spec tire. I haven't yet received a set of premount tires that didn't have at least one wheel with a +/- 1 degree camber wobble, and when I grab some throttle with the car in my hand, the body sounds like it's going to tear itself apart from the vibrations. The 4-tec 2.0 traxxas cars have better premount tire consistency and run-out. It's actually kinda sad.

Wayne

trigger 05-13-2019 03:53 PM

LOL! The tires are fine! Don't blame the tires for your ill handling cars. It's the same for everybody that follows the rules.

Marcos.J 05-13-2019 04:05 PM


Originally Posted by trigger (Post 15448826)
LOL! The tires are fine! Don't blame the tires for your ill handling cars. It's the same for everybody that follows the rules.

agreed I like the gravity spec tires

dman18t 05-13-2019 04:33 PM

Tires are fine, motors just got too fast and now overwhelm them on the near black carpet. If you went back to a Novak 21.5 with current tires on great carpet, everything would seem fine again. We are our own worst enemy in search of performance and ruin it for ourselves.


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