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Cain 12-24-2013 08:30 AM

thanks for the info.

steering feels great, plenty of that in fact, its just the rear end being loose.

MantisWorx 12-24-2013 02:44 PM


Originally Posted by Cain (Post 12840044)
thanks for the info.

steering feels great, plenty of that in fact, its just the rear end being loose.


Roll centers and droop settings will probably fix your issue. put shims under the inside front camber links, take away from the rear inside or add to the outside links. increase droop 1/2 turn in the rear (more down travel). This is assuming the car is loose on entry.

jlfx car audio 12-24-2013 03:08 PM

Yjimk ur backwards on ur droop thinking ...
More droop = more weight transfer which is not the cure for a loose on entry car

daveb 12-31-2013 10:02 PM

So I'm setting up my 6.1 to run USGT and I bought the Lexus IF S Concept body (200mm) and was wondering what type of offset I should run? I was thinking of running 3mm in the front but was wondering if 6mm would be extending out of the body? These are 26mm rims and I believe the Spec Tires will fit right? From what I understand they'll square out rather than round out.

vivo quevas 12-31-2013 10:30 PM


Originally Posted by daveb (Post 12861962)
So I'm setting up my 6.1 to run USGT and I bought the Lexus IF S Concept body (200mm) and was wondering what type of offset I should run? I was thinking of running 3mm in the front but was wondering if 6mm would be extending out of the body? These are 26mm rims and I believe the Spec Tires will fit right? From what I understand they'll square out rather than round out.

IMHO,
I am no pro but I run the Protoform Lexus LFA 200 mm I run no off set wheels! It looks fine most people don't notice. Offset wheels will change you handling and you will have to make set up changes to compensate for the offset wheels. I run a Tamiya and I think I would put on wider suspension mounts. IMHO

daveb 12-31-2013 11:09 PM

Sounds good....I got some of 24mm 10-spoke Ride rims coming but they obviously don't look as good as the HPI rim out there. I'll glue up a set but will decide on the next set of tires that I have. Central Cal? I'm originally from Manteca and raced at Ripon R/C

vivo quevas 01-01-2014 07:50 AM


Originally Posted by daveb (Post 12862031)
Sounds good....I got some of 24mm 10-spoke Ride rims coming but they obviously don't look as good as the HPI rim out there. I'll glue up a set but will decide on the next set of tires that I have. Central Cal? I'm originally from Manteca and raced at Ripon R/C

I have race at Manteca Hobbies in the 80's I never race in Ripon but I have been told it is a great track shame it closed down. We run a class here GT3 rules are a little different USGT we run a control tire team power 28 slicks on our sealed asphalt the Ride tires didn't have any grip. The other difference is weight our min. is 1380. We have been having great racing in our GT class it is the fastest growing class here Fresno. If you still have family in the valley come on down and race with us we race every weekend. Video of our last GT race.
+ YouTube Video
ERROR: If you can see this, then YouTube is down or you don't have Flash installed.

I don't know why I can't grt my YouTube link to work?
http://youtu.be/UYg2ISOtUj4

robk 01-02-2014 09:51 AM

For those interested the 21.5 - Turnigy Trackstar - 9192000034 motor has been submitted to ROAR for approval. When final approval is given, I'll let you guys know.

robk 01-02-2014 09:56 AM

double.

nrtv20 01-02-2014 10:06 AM


Originally Posted by robk (Post 12866160)
For those interested the 21.5 - Turnigy Trackstar - 9192000034 motor has been submitted to ROAR for approval. When final approval is given, I'll let you guys know.

Wow :weird:

Kevin Marcy 01-02-2014 03:41 PM


Originally Posted by robk (Post 12866160)
For those interested the 21.5 - Turnigy Trackstar - 9192000034 motor has been submitted to ROAR for approval. When final approval is given, I'll let you guys know.

Interesting. How will they meet this part of the rule?

8.5.2.1.1 Product availability is required to no less than three retail outlets prior to publication on approval list.

As far as I know, they only sell through Hobbyking's web page, not through retail outlets.

rcwck 01-02-2014 03:59 PM

Kevin,

HobbyKing was at one time accepting applications for USA retailers to carry their products. You had to have a legit store front to apply. A local retailer did apply but didn't ever hear a reply. HK claims to have retail franchises in many countries.

DARKSIDE 01-02-2014 04:00 PM


Originally Posted by Kevin Marcy (Post 12867104)
Interesting. How will they meet this part of the rule?

8.5.2.1.1 Product availability is required to no less than three retail outlets prior to publication on approval list.

As far as I know, they only sell through Hobbyking's web page, not through retail outlets.

good point...we will have to wait and see....

tcdrvr2 01-02-2014 04:18 PM

Trackstar
 
Wouldn't that be kind of a catch 22, if it gets approval I'm sure other retailers will carry it as a low price option. Since it doesn't have approval they don't carry it as they won't sell to racers competing with ROAR rules.

starrx 01-02-2014 07:19 PM


Originally Posted by robk (Post 12866160)
For those interested the 21.5 - Turnigy Trackstar - 9192000034 motor has been submitted to ROAR for approval. When final approval is given, I'll let you guys know.


hope the price dont go up:D

robk 01-02-2014 07:36 PM


Originally Posted by Kevin Marcy (Post 12867104)
Interesting. How will they meet this part of the rule?

8.5.2.1.1 Product availability is required to no less than three retail outlets prior to publication on approval list.

As far as I know, they only sell through Hobbyking's web page, not through retail outlets.

Integy I believe is carrying their product, and I would expect they have others as well

nrtv20 01-03-2014 05:24 AM

21.5 - Turnigy Trackstar - 9192000034

Is this different from the silver can version they used to sell? I've not seen a red one yet.

Will the silver can version be legal? I hope so; I have 3 of them =)

rcwck 01-03-2014 06:23 AM


Originally Posted by nrtv20 (Post 12868939)
21.5 - Turnigy Trackstar - 9192000034

Is this different from the silver can version they used to sell? I've not seen a red one yet.

Will the silver can version be legal? I hope so; I have 3 of them =)

Come to Klunk's Korner to see the red can version. I believe red has replaced silver for no apparent reason. I assume that the latest (red can) was submitted and technically silver would not be included as it is an earlier version but maybe not. HK's have only been banned in the UF1 series as far as I know for H.S.W.R. You'll be just fine in Northwood with any color can when/if you race. I know you got diapers to change. Lol

nrtv20 01-03-2014 07:13 AM


Originally Posted by rcwck (Post 12869035)
Come to Klunk's Korner to see the red can version. I believe red has replaced silver for no apparent reason. I assume that the latest (red can) was submitted and technically silver would not be included as it is an earlier version but maybe not. HK's have only been banned in the UF1 series as far as I know for H.S.W.R. You'll be just fine in Northwood with any color can when/if you race. I know you got diapers to change. Lol

Planning for this Sunday! USGT and F1; as much fun as you guys are having in 17.5 I might have to get another car set up!

tc3 racer sc 01-03-2014 10:16 AM

here my camero with the new spec tires
 
my usgt car hotbodies tc with with a exotek chassia 21.5 thunder power motor speed passion esc 2.1with the new spec tires only ran them once still trying to get them dial in the rims are from proline i found there are few yrs old

theproffesor 01-03-2014 10:34 AM

Good ol proline gumbys. Man they look good. I put them on the wheel of my old jr radio. Along with a proline treaded on road tire. Maybe more companies will get back in the game with rising popularity of theGT and VTA classes.

MantisWorx 01-03-2014 10:59 AM


Originally Posted by jlfx car audio (Post 12840919)
Yjimk ur backwards on ur droop thinking ...
More droop = more weight transfer which is not the cure for a loose on entry car

Not in all situations or we would all be running 0 droop!! Weight transfer can equal more grip in situations where grip is needed (spec tires/limited downforce!!)

"Limiting suspension droop has another interesting effect: you can use it to reduce traction rolling. Often it's a better solution than using stiffer springs and harder tires, it's even better than reducing ride height or adding anti-roll bars. " (both of which reduce traction)

I read this as by decreasing droop you can take traction away which would and can make the rear loose on entry due to less traction. Obviously there is a point where you can have too much droop and thus loose traction too.

On my Spec R it doesnt like full droop but it also doesnt like 2.5 droop so I am about 4 right now and it feels good and planted. Since these tires are not as grippy or rounded as the normal TC type tires i think they work better with weight transfer. But to each his own, its a simple test that can be reversed quite easily!!

IndyHobbies.com 01-05-2014 12:24 PM

Here's the new body I did for my son's USGT car. Its a PROTOForm Camaro ZL1 and he said he wanted a "Metallica" body. He's got good taste in music! More pictures in the custom paint thread.

http://www.rctech.net/forum/attachme...acamaro13r.jpg

IndyHobbies.com 01-05-2014 12:25 PM

Its mounted on his Associated TC6. The Metallica Black album snake is on the hood. Just got to get James Hatfield scaled down inside!

http://www.rctech.net/forum/attachme...acamaro02r.jpg

alloyslash 01-05-2014 01:43 PM

Now that's some nice paint! Very impressive! I was curious about how you was gonna do a Metallica theme paint job. That would also look good with some electric blue lightening bolts flowing across it ( Ride the Lightening album ).

Have you driven the Camaro body yet? If so, how does it handle/feel?

SS LS1 01-05-2014 02:25 PM


Originally Posted by alloyslash (Post 12876165)
Have you driven the Camaro body yet? If so, how does it handle/feel?

Curious to know this too! (specifically how it works compared to others you have tried)

Bigz84 01-05-2014 02:56 PM


Originally Posted by SS LS1 (Post 12876286)
Curious to know this too! (specifically how it works compared to others you have tried)

I thought the body felt pretty neutral. i ran on brand new tires, and the car was stupid loose. after a few more packs the car started to settle in and felt planted. the next time out, i am going to try to get the rear end to loosen up a tad, to rotate in the corners and keep the speed as i think my setup had the car stopping in the corners. the body looked awesome going around the track.

btw, the black metallic body looks awesome...kudos

daveb 01-05-2014 09:17 PM

I'm new to this GT class and just got some tires. With the directional tread pattern you now have a left set and right set. Has anyone noticed a difference when reversed or are these tires like the HPI VTA tires where when the tread is not seen they're starting to be broken in?

rcwck 01-06-2014 04:07 AM


Originally Posted by daveb (Post 12877843)
I'm new to this GT class and just got some tires. With the directional tread pattern you now have a left set and right set. Has anyone noticed a difference I'm jangling or are these tires like the HPI VTA tires where when the tread is not seen they're starting to be broken in?

Speaking of indoor carpet track w/traction compound.

VTA tires take a few runs to break in then with traction drugs they are good for several race days. They reach a point when they become too soft/thin and roll over too far making ill handling. Once the tread is gone they are junk at out track for competition and probably illegal at most tracks. I believe this is partially due to the high profile/ballon style VTA tire design.

I have tried 3 different USGT tires and some do and some do not require a break in period but they are no where close to becoming a slick tire to perform.

Ed Delgado 01-06-2014 08:48 AM

New Corvette C7R testing at Daytona recently.

Ed Delgado 01-06-2014 08:56 AM

For you Audi guys...

Ed Delgado 01-06-2014 09:02 AM

Audi R8 GTD
 
Double post

moparSRT 01-06-2014 10:13 AM

Hoping to see the C7R & GTS-R really soon in 1/10 scale lexan :nod:

http://i614.photobucket.com/albums/t...auwels/c7r.jpg

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog....alms-debut.jpg

NutDriver 01-06-2014 10:32 AM

That Vette is dressed-out in Detroi camo.

Rodarbal 01-06-2014 12:03 PM

Awesome shots, Ed! Thanks for sharing!

Norman2 01-08-2014 01:00 PM

Hi, Just completed my body of the Honda HSV-010 for the USGT season at my
local track. Had to use the Tamiya Wide version as my Kyosho TF-5S is a 200mm
chassis. Enjoy and regards
Norman2

v_squared 01-08-2014 01:07 PM

Very nice Norman. That must have taken you a while to sticker up right?


Originally Posted by Norman2 (Post 12887001)
Hi, Just completed my body of the Honda HSV-010 for the USGT season at my
local track. Had to use the Tamiya Wide version as my Kyosho TF-5S is a 200mm
chassis. Enjoy and regards
Norman2


Norman2 01-08-2014 01:20 PM


Originally Posted by v_squared (Post 12887023)
Very nice Norman. That must have taken you a while to sticker up right?

Hi, Just a couple of hours but you have to be patient. Lucky that the painting
was relatively simple. The hardest body I have ever done is this one of the
DTM Audi A4

DarthRacer 01-08-2014 04:21 PM


Originally Posted by Norman2 (Post 12887001)
Hi, Just completed my body of the Honda HSV-010 for the USGT season at my
local track. Had to use the Tamiya Wide version as my Kyosho TF-5S is a 200mm
chassis. Enjoy and regards
Norman2

I like that one! Nice job.

NutDriver 01-09-2014 07:57 AM

Norman,
Where is the local track that you race this?


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