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Old 06-18-2010, 10:06 AM   #286
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My $.02, as much as I'd like to stick with HPI's RCGT wheels\tires for the class at my track there are some cheaper alternatives out there to consider. It would probably be in HPI's best interest to nip a few things in the bud.

(1) Provide a cheaper tire solution by making a decent grip belted 26mm premount. Maybe provide this tire with different rim choices.

(2) Get rid of the sportsman and expert classes and just create one class with a no boost speedo and 17.5 motors. The reason being you start to overlap with TC. If a series wants to create an Expert class, then do so but at the discretion of the series.

(3) Create a LiPo\NIMH limit for mah and c rating.

I think those three things alone should simplify the RCGT class as well as help keep costs down. It'll be a step up from VTA and a stepping stone to TC.
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My $.02, as much as I'd like to stick with HPI's RCGT wheels\tires for the class at my track there are some cheaper alternatives out there to consider. It would probably be in HPI's best interest to nip a few things in the bud.

(1) Provide a cheaper tire solution by making a decent grip belted 26mm premount. Maybe provide this tire with different rim choices.
We're still working on this. Waiting for the Blast Off tires to be in stock so we can start trying them out. I am going to buy a set and see how it does.

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(2) Get rid of the sportsman and expert classes and just create one class with a no boost speedo and 17.5 motors. The reason being you start to overlap with TC. If a series wants to create an Expert class, then do so but at the discretion of the series.
This class shouldn't have turbo or advanced timing anyways. That is why there was a good number of people here that agreed that the Speed Passion Citrix combo is perfect for this class. Plus at only $80, this will be very attractive to newcomers. It should be a spec ESC and Motor to keep the field level.

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(3) Create a LiPo\NIMH limit for mah and c rating.

I think those three things alone should simplify the RCGT class as well as help keep costs down. It'll be a step up from VTA and a stepping stone to TC.
As far as battery, the consensus here was 5000 mah and 30C. They are pretty cheap right now.

We should talk more about this in person. When will you be at The Track next time? I should be there today and tomorrow (late).
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Old 06-18-2010, 10:23 AM   #288
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Apex, Looks like HarryN pretty much answered your questions. He's right, all those aspects have pretty much been covered.

You did make the comment that there are some cheaper alternatives out there. I've asked the question 2 or 3 times and still haven't gotten an answer......What are they ???
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Anybody understand what these dimensions mean ??
http://www.kinggolden-rc.com/pdtdeta...id=srd-rs1wt01
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Apex, Looks like HarryN pretty much answered your questions. He's right, all those aspects have pretty much been covered.

You did make the comment that there are some cheaper alternatives out there. I've asked the question 2 or 3 times and still haven't gotten an answer......What are they ???
(1) The speed passion 26 premount Shawn mentioned earlier in this thread for $15 - $20 a set. Don't know if it's belted though.

(2) Go with a belted 24mm TC non-dish premount. Jaco Rubberz $30 a set.

(3) http://ipanemasports.com/10scaleracingslicks.aspx I think they are about $30 a set.
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Haven't been following the thread, huh?
1.The Blast Offs are an unknown. Don't know much about them and nobody seems to have the answers. 26mm size is unknown but it doesn't look like it from the photo I posted

2. So far the concensus has been that 24mm is too close to TC and severely limits wheel choices.

3. Went to the Ipanema site...then I went to Brooklyn Hobbies, Bruckner Hobbies and RCBoyz from their dealer list. Couldn't find much info but apparently its a 26mm premount. Don't even know the price.

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http://www.kinggolden-rc.com/pdtdeta...id=srd-rs1wt01
That tire looks exactly like the Tamiya Super Grip radial tires...the Tamiya ones are 26mm....tamiya does also offer then in 30mm but the tread pattern isnt the same. I have used these way back in the early days of Sedan and TCS racing like 1997. They worked fairly well on carpet and on Asphalt but I dont know what compound these tires are made it. It looks like Tamiya offers them in two compounds. Who knows what the other ones are from the King Golden site.

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXGH67&P=SM
13.99

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXHBX6&P=SM
8.99 a set

http://www.tamiyausa.com/product/ite...oduct-id=53956
Pre mounted at Tamiya....18.00 retail.
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Haven't been following the thread, huh?
1.The Blast Offs are an unknown. Don't know much about them and nobody seems to have the answers. 26mm size is unknown but it doesn't look like it from the photo I posted

2. So far the concensus has been that 24mm is too close to TC and severely limits wheel choices.

3. Went to the Ipanema site...then I went to Brooklyn Hobbies, Bruckner Hobbies and RCBoyz from their dealer list. Couldn't find much info but apparently its a 26mm premount. Don't even know the price.
http://rcracingstation.com/rc_racing...arts_08_08.htm

RC Racing Station has the wheel and tire combo listed on their site with the prices. However, I think the 10th scale wheel and tire combo is the very bottom one for $16.50. But I can't tell if it is 1/10 or 1/8. Based on assumption alone, the bottom one for $16.50 is the 10th scale one.

Definitely worth a look-see, but need more info.
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http://www.tamiyausa.com/product/ite...oduct-id=53956
Pre mounted at Tamiya....18.00 retail.
If everyone puts this tire design next to the Blast Off tire, you will see they are the same exact tread pattern. Are the Blast Off wheels home-made, while the tires and inserts outsourced to Tamiya??? If that is the case, then I am on-board with Blast Off tires.

Tamiya tires > HPI hands down.
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This is one of the shops in So-cal that has them for a decent price. Hobbypeople.net I saw a set of pre-mounted x-patterns for $37. As I mentioned, this store almost always have a big sale for 5 to 6 days around a holiday. I've bought 4495 pro-belted x-patterns for $9.99 when they went on sale. July 4 is coming up, so maybe it'll be on the list for sale.

This is just info for those that asked, thanks.

Just looked at the price of the other store that I shop at. Ultimatehobbies.com HPI 4495 for $12.40 everyday and less than $5 for a pair of HPI rims in several different designs.
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I'm still wondering about these posted dimensions

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I'm still wondering about these posted dimensions

http://www.kinggolden-rc.com/pdtdeta...id=srd-rs1wt01
Here is a guess, 21cm outside circumference, 16cm inside circumference (rim size) and 3cm width. That makes it about the same height as an x-pattern but at 30mm wide.
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I'm still wondering about these posted dimensions

http://www.kinggolden-rc.com/pdtdeta...id=srd-rs1wt01
Are you talking about this....
Product ID: SRD-RS1WT01
Dimension: 21 x 16 x 3 cm³

There is something lost in the translation so take a guess its as good as any. It looks like a 8th grade math problem.
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Are you talking about this....
Product ID: SRD-RS1WT01
Dimension: 21 x 16 x 3 cm³

There is something lost in the translation so take a guess its as good as any. It looks like a 8th grade math problem.
I will have to second this. 30mm wide is like a VTA rear wheel.

Perhaps the dimensions were misquoted?
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That tire looks exactly like the Tamiya Super Grip radial tires...the Tamiya ones are 26mm....tamiya does also offer then in 30mm but the tread pattern isnt the same. I have used these way back in the early days of Sedan and TCS racing like 1997. They worked fairly well on carpet and on Asphalt but I dont know what compound these tires are made it. It looks like Tamiya offers them in two compounds. Who knows what the other ones are from the King Golden site.

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXGH67&P=SM
13.99

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXHBX6&P=SM
8.99 a set

http://www.tamiyausa.com/product/ite...oduct-id=53956
Pre mounted at Tamiya....18.00 retail.

The middle tire is the kit tire from the TA05v2
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