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or8ital 05-22-2010 04:05 AM

Can Paragon Ground Effects be stored in a plastic bottle?
 
I've never been a fan of the cans that Paragon Ground Effects comes in. It always seems to leak. I was going to buy an empty plastic dauber bottle like Sticky Fingers uses but wasn't sure if Paragon would eat through the plastic?

bjholz 05-22-2010 04:05 AM

Yummm paragon!

dameetz 05-22-2010 04:53 AM

I also want to know this. I have both the FX2 and Ground Effect, seems like the Ground Effect is more stronger than the FX2, I once spill a bit on my receiver, and casing is a bit deteriorate in shape, it does eat up plastics.

smoke81 05-22-2010 08:28 AM

I have seen it stored in a bottle that looks just like what Sticky Fingers comes in without issue.

Andy Koback 05-22-2010 09:38 AM

I put my Paragon in a used Bingo dauber bottle, No problems!

Owen RaCing 05-22-2010 09:48 AM

Where can we buy these bottles that y'all speak of? I'd like to get one for the Jack gripper I have.

or8ital 05-22-2010 10:43 AM

I was looking at these:

http://www.enasco.com/product/SB39648J

not sure if there is a better alternative.

Andy Koback 05-22-2010 11:47 AM


Originally Posted by or8ital (Post 7440419)
I was looking at these:

http://www.enasco.com/product/SB39648J

not sure if there is a better alternative.

These look just like the "Sticky Fingers" bottles. Replaceable foam daubers if needed too. I ones we use around here are found at the local Casino where the Bingo players throw them away or save them for people like us. They come filled with colored ink but after you rinse them out with water, let dry and good to go. Also heard that these can be found at Craft stores as well.

timmig 05-22-2010 12:02 PM

Be careful with where you get your bottles---they need to be flouredated--that allows you to put chemicals in them!! Some plastics WILL melt away if their not treated for chemical exposure.
FYI
Tim

vabroom 05-22-2010 12:16 PM

If you use or know of somebody that uses "Absorbine Jr" ask for the bottle when empty. It's either in glass or plastic container with a dabber.

pakk 05-22-2010 02:48 PM

dabber is great idea. Somone one link one that is paragone safe. Or maybe there is a top that will fit right on the paragon can?

benben10 05-23-2010 12:17 AM

has anyone asked or does anyone know, what major solvents/chemicals are in the traction compounds? with that info you can just hop on wikipedia and look up the plastic that can hold it. almost all plastic bottles will have a recycling symbol on them (the triangle with a number in it) to tell you which plastic it is.

here is the wikipedia article

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recyclable_plastic

Hebiki 05-23-2010 12:41 AM


Originally Posted by timmig (Post 7440598)
Be careful with where you get your bottles---they need to be flouredated--that allows you to put chemicals in them!! Some plastics WILL melt away if their not treated for chemical exposure.
FYI
Tim

yup.. i bought a couple of bottles from Target from the travel section. both bottles melted away when i put my traction compounds in them. :cry:

Andy Koback 05-23-2010 09:45 AM


Originally Posted by benben10 (Post 7442526)
has anyone asked or does anyone know, what major solvents/chemicals are in the traction compounds? with that info you can just hop on wikipedia and look up the plastic that can hold it. almost all plastic bottles will have a recycling symbol on them (the triangle with a number in it) to tell you which plastic it is.

here is the wikipedia article

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recyclable_plastic

You and I will never know the composition of traction compounds. If we did, we'd be making our own!!!

HarryLeach 05-23-2010 10:21 AM

I too, have been looking for empty, suitable dauber bottles.

But, to the original issue of the cans leaking, I always take a screwdriver and pry off the plastic safety cap, leaving you with just a plain metal cap that's much easier to thread on the can straight, and tight enough that it won't leak, while still being easily removed.

The plastic safety cap on Paragon cans are horrible for getting the cap on straight, tight and then be able to remove again.

or8ital 05-31-2010 04:33 AM

Just found these:

http://www.redrc.net/2010/05/sweep-r...tacky-bottles/

pakk 05-31-2010 05:59 AM

Awesome! And these bottles are free if you have ever purchased their sauce or plan to.

http://www.sweepracingusa.com/produc...roducts_id=165

or8ital 06-04-2010 02:54 PM

I got a couple of the sweep bottle. They seem VERY NICE! They are smaller than the sticky fingers bottles. The dauber seems a bit more solid. I haven't tried using them yet but once I do I will update my review.

RC MARKET 06-04-2010 03:19 PM

This one
http://rcmarket.com.hk/index.php?cPath=55_60

or8ital 06-04-2010 05:17 PM


Originally Posted by or8ital (Post 7498997)
I got a couple of the sweep bottle. They seem VERY NICE! They are smaller than the sticky fingers bottles. The dauber seems a bit more solid. I haven't tried using them yet but once I do I will update my review.

So I put the Paragon in and it didn't melt right away. Seems to apply the compound well. Doesn't come out too fast. I did mess up one of the dauber caps on one of my bottles. The cap wasn't in far enough. I took some pliers to the cap to twist in on further and it just twisted apart.

I also got some Sweep compound to try. Anyone know how this stuff is supposed to be? Seems kind of like the Trinity Tire Tweak. Does it need to be baked in?

ShaunMac 06-04-2010 06:40 PM

I've had Paragon sitting in one of those plastic bottles for over a year now. No melting or deforming and the applicator is still in good shape.

TheOtherBill 06-04-2010 08:07 PM

My Buggy Grip bottle is almost empty, that is where the Paragon is going when it is.

Kenny L 06-06-2010 09:04 AM


Originally Posted by or8ital (Post 7499480)
So I put the Paragon in and it didn't melt right away. Seems to apply the compound well. Doesn't come out too fast. I did mess up one of the dauber caps on one of my bottles. The cap wasn't in far enough. I took some pliers to the cap to twist in on further and it just twisted apart.

I also got some Sweep compound to try. Anyone know how this stuff is supposed to be? Seems kind of like the Trinity Tire Tweak. Does it need to be baked in?

You can bake our sauce in or just wipe 5 minutes before running depends on the amount of traction needed. The answer to anyone questions on paragon in our Wacky Tacky bottle I've had full one sitting upside down for 20hrs right now and going with out any signs of leaking. No more leaking paragon bottles

Kenny L 06-07-2010 07:34 PM

56hrs no leaks insight

robk 06-07-2010 07:54 PM


Originally Posted by Andy Koback (Post 7443803)
You and I will never know the composition of traction compounds. If we did, we'd be making our own!!!

Technically, any product like traction compound must have an MSDS safety sheet to alert the user to dangerous chemicals. They don't have to tell you the exact formula, but they do have to let you know if there is something dangerous in there.

rough512 06-08-2010 09:49 AM

I use a bottle/applicator from a liquid shoe polish (Kiwi brand. Don't know if it's available elsewhere) Seems to work fine. No melting of plastic. Used with NASA and Paragon tire sauces.

Hebiki 06-08-2010 10:06 AM


Originally Posted by Kenny L (Post 7504932)
You can bake our sauce in or just wipe 5 minutes before running depends on the amount of traction needed. The answer to anyone questions on paragon in our Wacky Tacky bottle I've had full one sitting upside down for 20hrs right now and going with out any signs of leaking. No more leaking paragon bottles

yup.. available here:

http://www.speedtechrc.com/store/ebp...?catmainid=858

:nod: :nod: :nod:


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